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Wednesday, 04 June 2008

Illinois Senator Barack Obama in St Paul Minnesotta today , rather is at the moment giving a speech acknowledging his victory over Hillary Clinton as the American Primary season finally comes to an end. What follows is the text of this speech.

Tonight, after fifty-four hard-fought contests, our primary season has finally come to an end.

Sixteen months have passed since we first stood together on the steps of the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois. 

Thousands of miles have been traveled. Millions of voices have been heard. And because of what you said -- because you decided that change must come to Washington; because you believed that this year must be different than all the rest; because you chose to listen not to your doubts or your fears but to your greatest hopes and highest aspirations, tonight we mark the end of one historic journey with the beginning of another -- a journey that will bring a new and better day to America. Tonight, I can stand before you and say that I will be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. 

I want to thank every American who stood with us over the course of this campaign -- through the good days and the bad; from the snows of Cedar Rapids to the sunshine of Sioux Falls. And tonight I also want to thank the men and woman who took this journey with me as fellow candidates for President. 

At this defining moment for our nation, we should be proud that our party put forth one of the most talented, qualified field of individuals ever to run for this office. I have not just competed with them as rivals, I have learned from them as friends, as public servants, and as patriots who love America and are willing to work tirelessly to make this country better. They are leaders of this party, and leaders that America will turn to for years to come. 

That is particularly true for the candidate who has traveled further on this journey than anyone else. Senator Hillary Clinton has made history in this campaign not just because she's a woman who has done what no woman has done before, but because she's a leader who inspires millions of Americans with her strength, her courage, and her commitment to the causes that brought us here tonight. 

We've certainly had our differences over the last sixteen months. But as someone who's shared a stage with her many times, I can tell you that what gets Hillary Clinton up in the morning -- even in the face of tough odds -- is exactly what sent her and Bill Clinton to sign up for their first campaign in Texas all those years ago; what sent her to work at the Children's Defense Fund and made her fight for health care as First Lady; what led her to the United States Senate and fueled her barrier-breaking campaign for the presidency -- an unyielding desire to improve the lives of ordinary Americans, no matter how difficult the fight may be. And you can rest assured that when we finally win the battle for universal health care in this country, she will be central to that victory. When we transform our energy policy and lift our children out of poverty, it will be because she worked to help make it happen. Our party and our country are better off because of her, and I am a better candidate for having had the honor to compete with Hillary Rodham Clinton. 

There are those who say that this primary has somehow left us weaker and more divided. Well I say that because of this primary, there are millions of Americans who have cast their ballot for the very first time. There are Independents and Republicans who understand that this election isn't just about the party in charge of Washington, it's about the need to change Washington.Ê There are young people, and African-Americans, and Latinos, and women of all ages who have voted in numbers that have broken records and inspired a nation.

All of you chose to support a candidate you believe in deeply. But at the end of the day, we aren't the reason you came out and waited in lines that stretched block after block to make your voice heard. You didn't do that because of me or Senator Clinton or anyone else. You did it because you know in your hearts that at this moment -- a moment that will define a generation -- we cannot afford to keep doing what we've been doing. We owe our children a better future. We owe our country a better future. And for all those who dream of that future tonight, I say -- let us begin the work together. Let us unite in common effort to chart a new course for America. 

In just a few short months, the Republican Party will arrive in St. Paul with a very different agenda. They will come here to nominate John McCain, a man who has served this country heroically. I honor that service, and I respect his many accomplishments, even if he chooses to deny mine. My differences with him are not personal; they are with the policies he has proposed in this campaign. 

Because while John McCain can legitimately tout moments of independence from his party in the past, such independence has not been the hallmark of his presidential campaign.

It's not change when John McCain decided to stand with George Bush ninety-five percent of the time, as he did in the Senate last year.

It's not change when he offers four more years of Bush economic policies that have failed to create well-paying jobs, or insure our workers, or help Americans afford the skyrocketing cost of college -- policies that have lowered the real incomes of the average American family, widened the gap between Wall Street and Main Street, and left our children with a mountain of debt. 

And it's not change when he promises to continue a policy in Iraq that asks everything of our brave men and women in uniform and nothing of Iraqi politicians -- a policy where all we look for are reasons to stay in Iraq, while we spend billions of dollars a month on a war that isn't making the American people any safer. 

So I'll say this -- there are many words to describe John McCain's attempt to pass off his embrace of George Bush's policies as bipartisan and new. But change is not one of them.

Change is a foreign policy that doesn't begin and end with a war that should've never been authorized and never been waged. I won't stand here and pretend that there are many good options left in Iraq, but what's not an option is leaving our troops in that country for the next hundred years -- especially at a time when our military is overstretched, our nation is isolated, and nearly every other threat to America is being ignored. 

We must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in - but start leaving we must. It's time for Iraqis to take responsibility for their future. It's time to rebuild our military and give our veterans the care they need and the benefits they deserve when they come home. It's time to refocus our efforts on al Qaeda's leadership and Afghanistan, and rally the world against the common threats of the 21st century -- terrorism and nuclear weapons; climate change and poverty; genocide and disease. That's what change is. 

Change is realizing that meeting today's threats requires not just our firepower, but the power of our diplomacy -- tough, direct diplomacy where the President of the United States isn't afraid to let any petty dictator know where America stands and what we stand for. We must once again have the courage and conviction to lead the free world. That is the legacy of Roosevelt, and Truman, and Kennedy. That's what the American people want. That's what change is. 

Change is building an economy that rewards not just wealth, but the work and workers who created it. It's understanding that the struggles facing working families can't be solved by spending billions of dollars on more tax breaks for big corporations and wealthy CEOs, but by giving a the middle-class a tax break, and investing in our crumbling infrastructure, and transforming how we use energy, and improving our schools, and renewing our commitment to science and innovation. It's understanding that fiscal responsibility and shared prosperity can go hand-in-hand, as they did when Bill Clinton was President.

John McCain has spent a lot of time talking about trips to Iraq in the last few weeks, but maybe if he spent some time taking trips to the cities and towns that have been hardest hit by this economy -- cities in Michigan, and Ohio, and right here in Minnesota -- he'd understand the kind of change that people are looking for. 

Maybe if he went to Iowa and met the student who works the night shift after a full day of class and still can't pay the medical bills for a sister who's ill, he'd understand that she can't afford four more years of a health care plan that only takes care of the healthy and wealthy. She needs us to pass health care plan that guarantees insurance to every American who wants it and brings down premiums for every family who needs it. That's the change we need.

Maybe if he went to Pennsylvania and met the man who lost his job but can't even afford the gas to drive around and look for a new one, he'd understand that we can't afford four more years of our addiction to oil from dictators. That man needs us to pass an energy policy that works with automakers to raise fuel standards, and makes corporations pay for their pollution, and oil companies invest their record profits in a clean energy future -- an energy policy that will create millions of new jobs that pay well and can't be outsourced. That's the change we need. 

And maybe if he spent some time in the schools of South Carolina or St. Paul or where he spoke tonight in New Orleans, he'd understand that we can't afford to leave the money behind for No Child Left Behind; that we owe it to our children to invest in early childhood education; to recruit an army of new teachers and give them better pay and more support; to finally decide that in this global economy, the chance to get a college education should not be a privilege for the wealthy few, but the birthright of every American. That's the change we need in America. That's why I'm running for President. 

The other side will come here in September and offer a very different set of policies and positions, and that is a debate I look forward to. It is a debate the American people deserve. But what you don't deserve is another election that's governed by fear, and innuendo, and division. What you won't hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon -- that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize. Because we may call ourselves Democrats and Republicans, but we are Americans first. We are always Americans first.

Despite what the good Senator from Arizona said tonight, I have seen people of differing views and opinions find common cause many times during my two decades in public life, and I have brought many together myself. I've walked arm-in-arm with community leaders on the South Side of Chicago and watched tensions fade as black, white, and Latino fought together for good jobs and good schools. I've sat across the table from law enforcement and civil rights advocates to reform a criminal justice system that sent thirteen innocent people to death row. And I've worked with friends in the other party to provide more children with health insurance and more working families with a tax break; to curb the spread of nuclear weapons and ensure that the American people know where their tax dollars are being spent; and to reduce the influence of lobbyists who have all too often set the agenda in Washington.

In our country, I have found that this cooperation happens not because we agree on everything, but because behind all the labels and false divisions and categories that define us; beyond all the petty bickering and point-scoring in Washington, Americans are a decent, generous, compassionate people, united by common challenges and common hopes. And every so often, there are moments which call on that fundamental goodness to make this country great again. 

So it was for that band of patriots who declared in a Philadelphia hall the formation of a more perfect union; and for all those who gave on the fields of Gettysburg and Antietam their last full measure of devotion to save that same union. 

So it was for the Greatest Generation that conquered fear itself, and liberated a continent from tyranny, and made this country home to untold opportunity and prosperity. 

So it was for the workers who stood out on the picket lines; the women who shattered glass ceilings; the children who braved a Selma bridge for freedom's cause. 

So it has been for every generation that faced down the greatest challenges and the most improbable odds to leave their children a world that's better, and kinder, and more just.

And so it must be for us. 

America, this is our moment. This is our time. Our time to turn the page on the policies of the past. Our time to bring new energy and new ideas to the challenges we face. Our time to offer a new direction for the country we love.The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people. Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth. This was the moment -- this was the time -- when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves, and our highest ideals. Thank you, God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.


Barack Obama
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Barack Obama, a former Senator for the State of Illinois, is the 44th president of the US. You can reach him at whitehouse.gov




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Hongera Obama
written by Johnny B. Goode , June 04, 2008
Congratulations to the first Luo-American to be the presidential nominee for a major US party.
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Luo-American?
written by Nyabs , June 04, 2008
Luo-American? I thought the guy was African-American?

Does he speak dholuo by any chance?

Anyway, my congratulations to him also. Hopes he beats Mcain.
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written by manta ray , June 04, 2008
I doubt that Obama as a person sees himself as Luo-American. He doesn't even describe himself as African-American, but as an American, which is how he is trying to inspire Americans to see themselves. To paraphrase parts of his 2004 Democratic National convention, he said:

....Now even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us, the spin masters and negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of anything goes.

Well, I say to them tonight, there's not a liberal America and a conservative America; there's the United States of America.

There's not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there's the United States of America.

The pundits, the pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states and blue States: red states for Republicans, blue States for Democrats.
But I've got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states.

We coach little league in the blue states and, yes, we've got some gay friends in the red states.

There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq, and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq.

We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.


In the end, that's what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism, or do we participate in a politics of hope?

John Kerry calls on us to hope. John Edwards calls on us to hope. I'm not talking about blind optimism here, the almost willful ignorance that thinks unemployment will go away if we just don't think about it, or health care crisis will solve itself if we just ignore it.

That's not what I'm talking. I'm talking about something more substantial. It's the hope of slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs; the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores; the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta; the hope of a millworker's son who dares to defy the odds; the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him, too.

Hope in the face of difficulty, hope in the face of uncertainty, the audacity of hope: In the end, that is God's greatest gift to us, the bedrock of this nation, a belief in things not seen, a belief that there are better days ahead....


Johnny B Goode, is it not ironic that you find it in you to praise the man who said such inspiring words, given your spirited argument for exactly the opposite beliefs?
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written by BarkBite , June 04, 2008
Congrats are in order for Barack, and I'm glad to see the Kenyans celebrate his victory. But it appears that there are some Kenyans who think if Barack becomes president of the U.S., that Kenya will be entitled to kickbacks, because he's "really" Kenyan and not American. That kind of garbage has no place.

http://www.barkbiteblog.com/2008/06/kenya-im-about.html
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Reality check
written by Nyabs , June 05, 2008
Some reality check. One, the guy is American. Two, his father abandoned him, which is the height of parental irresponsibility. It says a lot about him that he was able to overcome the rejection of his father and even keep contact with his family in K'ogelo.

When he becomes president ( and I am deliberately using the word when. I see no reasons why Americans should vote for Mcain instead of Obama but could be my afro bias speaking), his primary constituency will be the American taxpayer, not Africa, not Kenya, not K'ogelo. The only way we can benefit is if he has pro-africa policies, but not the mindless ones of pouring money into a bottomless pits, but policies that enable Africa tap into the American market and trade with dignity.

Trying to establish kinship with him by calling a Luo-American, or Kenyan-American will not wash. It was hilarious when one Raila claimed that the guy is his cousin. My definition of cousin is the son or daughter of one's uncle or aunt, kwisha. Otherwise, I could also be a cousin of Bush.

The guy is an American. Period.

Manta, thank you for the speech above. That is the stuff visionary leaders are made of. Any hope that Kenya will produce an Obama one day, who will see us as Kenyans and not as Kikuyus, Kisiis, Luos etc and who will refuse to see us divided but will work towards a united Kenya?

I wait in hope.
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written by aeichener , June 05, 2008
Nyabs, you are right, but...

Okay, let's just leave it with the but. It's weighty enough.

To the topic:
The Democratic nomination was important in various respects. Firstly and mainly, it showed that presidential contenders from a disadvantaged group (be that women, be that people of colour) now have a realistic chance. Both are oppressed, though in different ways.

Secondly, Obama's success was due to the fact that he is not black (or not "black" as Gary Kamiya would write). A "black" US-American candidate in the traditional sense would have had a snowflake's chance in hell. However, his erstwhile success now is a big and radiant symbol of change and of hope for *all* people of colour.

Thirdly, Obama definitely has a higher chance of winning the presidential election than Hillary would have. That is, plainly and simply, a main reason why I am happy that he won it, all personal preferences aside.

Fourthly, Obama is no saint. He is a politician, as Rev. Jeremiah Wright bitterly remarked. But from the available top politicians, he still seems about the best choice to me. I just don't confuse him with a Messiah.

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re: Reality check
written by aeichener , June 05, 2008
Any hope that Kenya will produce an Obama one day, who will see us as Kenyans and not as Kikuyus, Kisiis, Luos etc and who will refuse to see us divided but will work towards a united Kenya?
I wait in hope.


Honey, there are such Kenyan politicians and activists already.
But they are not black.

A.
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written by manta ray , June 05, 2008
Nyabs, too true. What Obama has succeeded in doing is in articulating a different way of how people should look at leadership and what to expect from it.


Trying to establish kinship with him by calling a Luo-American, or Kenyan-American will not wash. It was hilarious when one Raila claimed that the guy is his cousin. My definition of cousin is the son or daughter of one's uncle or aunt, kwisha. Otherwise, I could also be a cousin of Bush.


I saw that instance on TV last year where Raila had just landed from America and he pulled out a photo of himself with Obama. Very embarrassing indeed and totally unbecoming of a grown man or aspiring National leader of a country.
Also, the Raila claim on BBC just before the 2007 election that Obama is a cousin, only for the Obama campaign HQ to deny the allegation this year when questioned about it. More embarrassment.

The guy is an American. Period.


Yes, American. Not Luo-American(due to father's tribal roots), Kenyan American(due to fathers national roots), Black American(due to ethnic American affiliation), African American(due to ethnic American affiliation), Indonesian American(due to Indonesian step-father), Japanese-American(due to the city of Obama in Japan), Hawaiian-American(where he spent his early years) etc. Wow, it seems every ethnicity would love to lay claim to him.

Manta, thank you for the speech above. That is the stuff visionary leaders are made of. Any hope that Kenya will produce an Obama one day, who will see us as Kenyans and not as Kikuyus, Kisiis, Luos etc and who will refuse to see us divided but will work towards a united Kenya?

I wait in hope.


Nyabs, all those people on Kenya Imagine who have been arguing for Kenyans to identify themselves as Kenyans first and their tribes second, Wanyama, Amir Ibrahim, Daniel Waweru, yourself, myself, etc., we are all Obama in our beliefs. You do not have to speak like him, or inspire like him, you just have to believe in his message. It is up to us to take that message to Kenyans now that everybody can see that it is possible to think like that and succeed.
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written by manta ray , June 05, 2008
Any hope that Kenya will produce an Obama one day, who will see us as Kenyans and not as Kikuyus, Kisiis, Luos etc and who will refuse to see us divided but will work towards a united Kenya?
I wait in hope.


Honey, there are such Kenyan politicians and activists already.
But they are not black.

A.



Apart from the obvious ones here on Kenya Imagine, and who i suspect are mostly black Kenyans, Who are these other people you speak of who are Kenyan Obamas but are not black? Please give us their names.
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written by Advocatus Diaboli , June 05, 2008
Any hope that Kenya will produce an Obama one day, who will see us as Kenyans and not as Kikuyus, Kisiis, Luos etc and who will refuse to see us divided but will work towards a united Kenya?
I wait in hope.


Honey, there are such Kenyan politicians and activists already.
But they are not black.

A.



Apart from the obvious ones here on Kenya Imagine, and who i suspect are mostly black Kenyans, Who are these other people you speak of who are Kenyan Obamas but are not black? Please give us their names.


One Alexander 'I provide my own proofs' Aichener.
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written by Johnny B. Goode , June 05, 2008
I doubt that Obama as a person sees himself as Luo-American. He doesn't even describe himself as African-American, but as an American, which is how he is trying to inspire Americans to see themselves. To paraphrase parts of his 2004 Democratic parable is National convention, he said:


Dude I think you should get a copy of 'Dreams from my father'. I haven't got a copy myself but someone who has read that particular book writes.

For the few willing to read all 442 pages, he offers important testimony about the enduring glamour of anti-white anger. It

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written by Johnny B. Goode , June 05, 2008
I doubt that Obama as a person sees himself as Luo-American. He doesn't even describe himself as African-American, but as an American, which is how he is trying to inspire Americans to see themselves. To paraphrase parts of his 2004 Democratic parable is National convention, he said:


Dude I think you should get a copy of Dreams from my father. I do not got a copy myself but someone who has read that particular book writes.

For the few willing to read all 442 pages, he offers important testimony about the enduring glamour of anti-white anger. It is a bitter counterweight to the sunny hopes so widely invested in his candidacy as the man whose election as president would somehow help America finally transcend race.


Obama 01

If you want to idolize someone as much as you do, at least take the time to know as much as you can about them. Especially the contradictions that are inherent in any persons life.

As I have said before on this very same pages on this issue, in his genetic make-up Obama is not really different from other black Americans. The difference might be a more immediate connection to his white mother. His is only a higher percentage of white blood. The average black person has 20 % (see Quincy Jones), this guys here say.

Famous black peoples DNA

Finally on this question in America, especially as a popular figure, you can't remain on the fence. People want to know and frankly if someone like Obama says he is bi-racial it simply means that he is saying that he is white and more often than not such a person will interact almost exclusively with whites and probably even marry white. The problem of bi-raciality is that most of these poor chaps will end up making a choice, one way or the other. There is rarely a happy middle. A person in such a situation will either want to be more black or more white.

Blacks do not take kindly to such treachery, owing to history, and it would be very doubtful that such a person would be consistently getting 80% - 90% of the black vote. If Obama was not getting that, owing to the closeness of this race, it is highly doubtful that such a person would have clinched the nomination. Ironically against John McCain he has more latitude than against Hillary Clinton.

Here is another quote from Obamas book which is a very true observation too. It is a second hand quote as I have not bought the book yet. Frankly at kshs 1500 it will have to wait a bit. I have other priorities right now.

In fact, there is a scene in Dreams From My Father that crystallized the differences between Obama and me. Obama asks a mixed-race student named Joyce if she is going to the Black Students Association meeting. Joyce replies, I am not black, I am multiracial, and asks why she should have to choose between her two parents. Obama writes, It sounded real good, until you noticed that [those who said this] avoided black people. It was not a matter of conscious choice, necessarily, just a matter of gravitational pull, the way integration always worked, a one-way street ... Only white culture could be nonracial ... And we, the half-breeds and the college degrees, take a survey of the situation and think to ourselves, Why should we get lumped in with the losers if we don't have to?


You should not get your panties in a bunch for the luo-american phrase. I knew the KI crowd would of course come down hard on me for that one.


Johnny B Goode, is it not ironic that you find it in you to praise the man who said such inspiring words, given your spirited argument for exactly the opposite beliefs?


My beliefs are not the opposite of Obamas. I just do not believe that an attachment to ones ethnic, racial, religious or any other identity makes one more or less capable of being a highly constructive member of any given society. The human being is far more complex than that. Nothing illustrates this point better than Jesus good Samaritan story. I am no more a racist or tribalist than pseudo-nationalists like you and Wanyama. A person has to define themselves otherwise others will define you.

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written by Johnny B .Goode , June 05, 2008

Nyabs, all those people on Kenya Imagine who have been arguing for Kenyans to identify themselves as Kenyans first and their tribes second, Wanyama, Amir Ibrahim, Daniel Waweru, yourself, myself, etc., we are all Obama in our beliefs. You do not have to speak like him, or inspire like him, you just have to believe in his message. It is up to us to take that message to Kenyans now that everybody can see that it is possible to think like that and succeed.


Ironic that we believe and support the same political parties and individuals, Manta. It is also very amusing to me. It is the fallacy of democracy that such things as elections are reduced to popularity contests. Essentially a politician will be supported for any number of reasons.

Some might vote for a candidate so and so is cute. I suspect strongly that Al Gore lost to George Bush jr. because the guy is boring. That might have cost him the essential votes needed to win.

Some might vote for a candidate because he or she looks like them despite what views they hold on different issue. Thus blacks for Obama, women for Hillary and probably white men for Mc Cain.

Some will vote for McCain because he has military experience and indeed McCain has already moved to draw first blood by pointing out Obamas lack of military experience etc.

Some might actually support a candidates views on issues. This, however is in itself a very subjective issue as it is not entirely independent of the person who is actually espousing the issues. Thus for example, one might find sense in Obamas words because he is black or Hillarys views might make more sense because she is a woman.

Essentially there is not that big a difference between the issues of Obama and Hillary Clinton. They are basically saying the same things and will both in all likely hood be unable to deliver when elected. George Bush jr. came as a uniter, and anti-nation building. He has been one of the most divisive presidents and Iraq nation building project besides enriching his cronies has kept him bogged down and the rest of the world safer from America bombing sprees.

The US system of governance is too rigid for any one person to change much which is why as far as foreign policy is concerned, the differences between one president despite their political colour is always minimal. Bombings, the Cuba embargo and failure to resolve the Palestinian - Israeli conflict are the order of the day, no matter who resides at the white house.

Manta, I say tread softly, and do not drown in the hope rhetoric, because if Obama is elected, he will find the nitty gritty of actually running the US a huge challenge. If elected, I predict that he won't go beyond one term. It will be the price to pay for selling hope.
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written by manta ray , June 05, 2008
Johnny, where does Obama define himself as African American, let alone Luo-American? That is the question.
If anything, he defines himself as multiracial in his book.
You even have the gall to quote text from a neo-con magazine, the very enemies of Obamas philosophy. Anyhow, why should i be surprised? You will say anything to defend your backward conservative credentials, while the rest of the world moves on. Why should i be surprised that you read neo-con magazines which have pictures of Dick Chenny on the cover?

My beliefs are not the opposite of Obamas. I just do not believe that an attachment to ones ethnic, racial, religious or any other identity makes one more or less capable of being a highly constructive member of any given society.


Your beliefs are the extreme opposite of Obamas, no matter how you try to imply that they somehow complement each other. You either believe or you don't.
Nobody has a problem with attachment to ones ethnic group, but it should not be at the expense of the wider society which consists of different ethnicities. A nation is a compromise of ethnic interests, not a subjugation of less powerful interests by powerful ones. Such is a recipe for conflict and resentment.
This eternal conflict is what Obama has been preaching against and is what has resonated with reasonable people and made him so successful, thamks to his gifts of persuasion.
It is also what so called "pseudo-nationalists" like me and Wanyama have been asserting all along.
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written by manta ray , June 05, 2008
Apart from the obvious ones here on Kenya Imagine, and who i suspect are mostly black Kenyans, Who are these other people you speak of who are Kenyan Obamas but are not black? Please give us their names.



One Alexander 'I provide my own proofs' Aichener.


Oh, I always thought you were from Meru, don't really know why.
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Oh, I always thought you were from Meru, don't really know why.


Because I am the clichd typical aggressive Meru bitch and gender warrior, am I not? ;-P

Alexander
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Obama\'s strategy?
written by aeichener , June 05, 2008
From another board:

"What Obama needs to do is incorporate the Latino and Women outreach componenents of Hillary's campaing and he will be fine.
Also, since only 60% of the US vote (sc. is white), Obama is cleverly registering NEW voters, most of the young, African, and latino, to offset the racist vote. He needs to get a fresh influx of no more than 5%."
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written by aeichener , June 05, 2008
Who are these other people you speak of who (...) are not black? Please give us their names.


Among well-known Kenyan politicians and activists: Richard Leakey, and quite a handful of Asian (origin = Indian, Goan, Pakistani) Kenyans. And maybe Lynn Muthoni Wanyeki (Emmo's pet hate object) who is mixed.

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written by manta ray , June 05, 2008
Who are these other people you speak of who (...) are not black? Please give us their names.


Among well-known Kenyan politicians and activists: Richard Leakey, and quite a handful of Asian (origin = Indian, Goan, Pakistani) Kenyans. And maybe Lynn Muthoni Wanyeki (Emmo's pet hate object) who is mixed.

Alexander


You think Leakey is an Obama supporter? Does he believe in Obamas message? Maybe Wanyeki, but does she, in contradiction to her well known ODM sympathies? Moreover, do they believe in him?
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written by Johnny B. Goode , June 05, 2008
Johnny, where does Obama define himself as African American, let alone Luo-American? That is the question.
If anything, he defines himself as multiracial in his book.
You even have the gall to quote text from a neo-con magazine, the very enemies of Obamas philosophy. Anyhow, why should i be surprised? You will say anything to defend your backward conservative credentials, while the rest of the world moves on. Why should i be surprised that you read neo-con magazines which have pictures of Dick Chenny on the cover?


Do I really have to read the book for you? The quotes were explicit enough but do not let me dissuade you from the illusions of an ethnic and race free world with Obama as your Super-hero. And what does it matter where I quote from, I don't believe they fabricated the quotes from Dreams from my father. Besides the 2nd quote from was not from that source but from Alexs favourite site colorblindsalon. Luo-American was said in jest because I knew it would get people hot and bothered, especially here on KI but as far as the way I see identities, he is. Some people even see the guy just as a Luo and I've met a few in my time.


Your beliefs are the extreme opposite of Obamas, no matter how you try to imply that they somehow complement each other. You either believe or you don't.
Nobody has a problem with attachment to ones ethnic group, but it should not be at the expense of the wider society which consists of different ethnicities. A nation is a compromise of ethnic interests, not a subjugation of less powerful interests by powerful ones. Such is a recipe for conflict and resentment.
This eternal conflict is what Obama has been preaching against and is what has resonated with reasonable people and made him so successful, thamks to his gifts of persuasion.
It is also what so called "pseudo-nationalists" like me and Wanyama have been asserting all along.


My beliefs are not far from what the nice Mr. Obama says in his speeches. I do believe in a world where people are judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin or their ethnicity but I don't have to become a pseudo nationalist for that. In fact since I am no politician you can believe me more than you should believe Obama.
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re: Reality check
written by aeichener , June 05, 2008

Among well-known Kenyan politicians and activists: Richard Leakey, and quite a handful of Asian (origin = Indian, Goan, Pakistani) Kenyans. And maybe Lynn Muthoni Wanyeki (Emmo's pet hate object) who is mixed.

You think Leakey is an Obama supporter? Does he believe in Obamas message? Maybe Wanyeki, but

Please be not silly. The question was: "who will see us as Kenyans and not as Kikuyus, Kisiis, Luos etc and who will refuse to see us divided but will work towards a united Kenya?"
To this question you have received an answer.

I don't care a flying fuck whether Leakey, Patel, Wanyeki or whosoever exalt Obama or not.

A.
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written by emmo opoti , June 05, 2008
I see you have taken to making unprovoked attacks on me, again. Like I have told you there are consequences for such talk and unlike you I will have to live them. The people who cheer Waneki on are not likely to take at all kindly to my positions, you already know this. Secondly, I am willing to be persuaded about Muthoni. Please link me to a single comment of maturity or boldness she has ever made. A moment when she came out to speak for Kenya and the rights of Kenyans and not for her peculiar political proclivities. Show and tell, this is the internet after all.
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emmo where have you been?
written by observer , June 05, 2008
Chief,

I have missed you enlightened sarcastic insight.
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written by mkosakabila , June 06, 2008
True, true--would be nice if a black man and a woman clinched the prize. The rest are details. Hillary can contain Bill.
As for those hard-core Hillary supporters that are switching to McCain.....they have the right to remain silent (and dain bramaged).
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