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Saturday, 29 December 2007

This thread lists updates from the ECK press briefing at the Kenyatta Conference Centre. Please scroll to the bottom for the latest updates. [Last updated Nairobi time: 19:07]

At a press conference held early this morning ODM leaders, William Ruto, Joseph Nyagah and Tony Gachoka expressed their concern on the delay of votes.

"We have been receiving confirmation of parliamentary votes but none for the presidential race, what is going on?" Nyagah. He called for the president to address the nation to explain the delay.

ECK called on everyone to be patient. According to ECK they are trying their best, however, some areas have many candidates thus the delay.

Tony Gachoka pointed out to ECK that the nation was tense and warned that any outcome resulting from this tension would be ECK's responsibility.

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[updated time in Nairobi-- 12:00pm]

While ODM leaders were holding a separate press conference, ECK Chair Kivuitu, called a press conference where he called onto Kenyans to be patient as his commission waited on results from about 52 constituencies.

ECK reports that out of a total of 7,532,264 votes, Raila has 3,726,247 of these, while Kibaki has 3,416,139.

ECK Chair Kivuitu called onto "those holding onto the votes to report them as soon as possible, or else I will be forced to announce only the results that I have as the official ones."

On why they have not received certain votes, Kivuitu said that some returning officers had turned off their phones and there was no way of reaching them. He alluded to their "cooking" votes, and warned them against it.

It also seems that some returning officers were reporting constituency results first before getting to ECK explaining the anomalies in results over the last two days.

According to a Nation media news reporter at the ECK press conference, Raila has declared himself the winner with 4.2 million votes to Kibaki's 3.7million (note the difference between ODM's numbers and those of ECK).

The following is the presidential election tally per province according to ECK:

*Nairobi

Kibaki-123, 480

Raila- 184, 798

*Coast

Kibaki-90,240

Raila-184,798

*North Eastern

Kibaki- 55, 459

Raila- 63,743

*Eastern

Kibaki- 421, 135

Raila- 61,440

*Central

Kibaki-1,724,409

Raila- 34,063

*Rift Valley

Kibaki- 546,938

Raila 1,441,450

*Western

Kibaki-239,972

Raila- 552,582

*Nyanza

Kibaki-214, 506

Raila- 1, 241, 297

*Currently ECK is announcing some of the missing constituency presidential votes, so these numbers will change.

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update, Nairobi time: 15:39

Pending a few missing constituencies, in a separate press conference PNU has announced that they are winning the election so far at 4.5 million votes against ODM's 4.2 million votes.

The ECK briefing is still going on. Members of the press and party observers are agitated and have requested the presence of ECK Chair Samuel Kivuitu so that he can announce the winner of the presidential race.

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[updated Nairobi time: 16:08]

ECK took a break after the request to call the Kivuitu. The officials have returned and are attempting to read the constituency presidential votes. However, the press and political observers will have none of it. The meeting has been rowdy with everyone trying to outtalk each other. Kivuitu is not in the room, but is somewhere in KICC.

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[updated Nairobi time: 16:22]

Najib Balala and Joseph Nyagah are holding a side conference as is showing on KTN. They are calling for Kivuitu, Kihara and President Kibaki to come and calm the waters. It seems Nithi is the constituency under contention. Nyagah is alleging that votes from Nithi have been rigged.

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[updated Nairobi time: 16:34]

Kivuitu is now speaking. He insists that ECK has still not received all the ballots. He urges everyone to be calm. According to the law, he says, the returning officer is the only one who can announce the results from their constituency.

A party agent (it is not clear what party he represents) claims that not all parties are well represented at the ECK briefings. (There should be a maximum of 10 agents representing each presidential candidate.) His claims seems to be unfounded as Kivuitu makes all party agents to get up and it looks like they are all present.

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[updated Nairobi time: 16:39]

Hon Ruto, ODM, requests Kivuitu to allow party agents to verify the Nithi votes.

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[updated Nairobi time: 16:43]

A PNU party agents does not see the need to verify only Nithi votes.

An ODM-K party agent would like for the ECK briefings to go on.

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[updated Nairobi time: 16:52]

Kivuitu-- "The power of pronouncing/declares the election results lies with ECK after ECK has consulted with the returning officer." He goes on to read the Election Code of Conduct to the party agents. Basically, he is telling them that they should accept the results of ECK or take it to court.

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[updated Nairobi time: 16:56]

Kivuitu continues with the briefing. He is now reading the presidential results of some of the remaining constituencies.

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[updated Nairobi time: 17:06]

James Orengo attempts to speak to Kivuitu who ignores him. Speaking over Kivuitu he says, " We know what the courts will do. They will reject any opposition we have because they are not counting agents are. You know that if you announce results before hearing our objections there is really nowhere we can go. The Kenya of today will not allow rigging."

Meanwhile security attempts to take him out amidst shouts of , "Let him go!"

Paramilitary/GSU are seen at the back of the room waiting to come in if things get out of hand.

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[updated Nairobi time: 17:17]

Ngilu; "Nobody is going to court. We should solve this here. "

Kivuitu says he will leave and go home if he is not allowed to do his job. "I am not happy to see results delayed. There cannot be any excuse. We have asked the Police to help us trace this people. We cannot announce Kamukunji because someone has pockeked the results. Right now I have received results where votes are more than voter turnout. There is no way we can accept that. We are not robots. We are regarding the rights of all Kenyans. "

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[updated Nairobi time: 17:30]

Karua, "If these last PNU strongholds are being contested then I insist that we contest all 210 constituencies. In the morning when ODM was declared winners in many constituencies, we did not hear any complaints. Let us be consistent when speaking about being fair."

Kivuitu--Starehe- Bishop Wanjiru was announced as the winner. "Although there were complaints, that was the end of it since we do not take back results that we have announced."

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[updated Nairobi time: 17:44]

Nazlin Umar:"I have evidence showing a van bringing in 6 ballot boxes. We have written to ECK and have heard nothing from them. We hope to seek an audience with you. Save for PNU party agents, all party agents are waiting outside [KICC] to meet with you. Please allow for fair elections in Kamukunji."

According to Kivuitu Kamukunji will have re-election since their ballot boxes have been tampered with. The returning officer for Kamkunji allegedly fears for her life.

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[updated Nairobi time: 17:50]

Dr. Josephine Odhiambo," The media is relaying the going-ons of this press conference to the general public increasing their anxiety." She urged ECK to speedy up the process.

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[updated Nairobi time: 18.00]

Balala insists that Kivuitu announces presidential winner with 19 constituencies left.

Kivuitu-- as of 1430, results from 180 constituencies: Kibaki-- 3,842,051 and Raila is 3,880,053.

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[updated Nairobi time: 18.15]

KTN shows beefed up security outside KICC with GSU guards and dogs.

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[updated Nairobi time: 18.20]

KTN shows clips of ODM supporters in Nairobi who took to the streets earlier in the day brandishing machetes and other weapons.

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[updated Nairobi time: 18.24]

Another clip shows members of Kibera speaking against the violence that has been taking place in difference areas of the country.

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[updated Nairobi time: 18.55]

The Chairman and the 21 commissioners of ECK have met and decided to scrutunize and reassess all 210 constituencies to determine that there has been no foul play.

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[updated Nairobi time: 19.00]

ECK has agreed to have two representatives of each of the presidential candidates (party observers) to observe as they re-assess the votes. They will allow 50 for the morning conference (tomorrow at 6am) and 2 observers to stay overnight.

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[updated Nairobi time: 19.07]

ECK will have no more business to conduct today. There will be no more announcements. Kenyans will enter the fourth day after elections with 19 constituencies' election results still pending.

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written by Kamale , December 29, 2007

There are unconfirmed reports of violence in Eastleigh following the narrowing of the gap.

George Nyamweya and Uhuru have been calling on the ECK to caution that media results are not official results. This is as a result of the speculation that arose last night when Raila's lead dwindled very quickly.

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chaos
written by Amina , December 29, 2007

also unconfirmed is chaos in Kisumu.

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written by Amina , December 29, 2007

More than 30 constituencies with about 2 million votes haven't been received by ECK.

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written by Kamale , December 29, 2007

KTN reports tension around parts of the country.

about 30 constituencies with about 2.1 million votes yet to report.

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rigging?
written by Amina , December 29, 2007

KTN is showing tampering of votes in Kamukunji.

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Why Kibaki will not concede
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Amongst Kibaki's inner circle and financiers are people who have committed some of the most despicable and heinous crimes in Kenya's history. From Pio Gama Pinto to Mboya and JM's murder, look closely and there you will find them lurking in the shadows supporting Kibaki.

Fast forward to the 1990s and 2000s, and once again you will find people implicated in some real big time scandals the latest of which was Anglo-Leasing and the Artur brothers. If you all may recall, the Arturs were given their special all accesss badges by none other than George Muhoho. Now, consider what Muhoho has been to Kibaki since the founding of Ndee Pee in the ealy '90s. Additionaly, Muhoho happens also to be Uhuru Kenyatta's uncle (brother to Mama Ngina).

A Kibaki loss totally scuttles ANY prospect of a Uhuru presidency in 2012.

The guilty are very afraid.

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tension heightened
written by Amina , December 29, 2007

KTN reports violence in parts of Nairobi, Kisumu, Eldoret, Busia and Kakamega.

Some of the constituencies whose votes have not been turned in are:
Tigania E
Tigania W
Tharaka

ECK is about to have another press conference. Raila and Ruto are also planning a press conference.

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System Administrator
written by Wanjohi , December 29, 2007

The elections are free and fair, so kenyans should accept whoever will be the president and continue with life. Good example is the former Mps who have been removed. let the people decide.

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IT. official
written by Wanjohi , December 29, 2007

Kenyans should embrace the president who will win since the elections are free and fair. We are on the right track having removed a good number of former Mps of which some of them are almost at senile stage.
Let people decide!!!

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written by Amina , December 29, 2007

Does ECK not have the power to go and fetch the votes? For how long are they going to wait while tensions build around the nation?

I saw the press conference too, and the ECK chair did not show that his commission was doing anything, apart from making phone calls, to make sure that these results are announced ASAP.

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written by se Wanyama , December 29, 2007

A Raila win is on the cards. I have been sifting through global media houses like Reuters etc and the opinion is that Raila will win. I thought Kibaki was smarter than that. In 1988 after Moi tried to rig him out of Othaya through Mlolongo vote and provincial admin, Kibaki quipped: even rigging requires intelligence! His attempt in 2007 lacks that smartness too

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written by Amina , December 29, 2007

Apparently, there has been a directive from the Statehouse for ECK to declare FINAL results.

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Is Kivuitu serious?
written by Nekessa , December 29, 2007

This is all very very disturbing!! In the ECK press conference, Kivuitu completely washed his hands off all responsibility on the delay!! His officers are not answering his calls, imagine that! According to him, they might have decided to take a nap and might not even be aware that the whole nation was waiting for them. wow!

Obviously, Kivuitu recognizes the urgency (he talks about the need for a bodyguard for himself), but is doing nothing to make sure that we get results ASAP!

Simple math-- addition! It seems no one can add/tally votes.

Perhaps as he suggests, Kenyans should go to the mosque/temple/church and pray.

This is very disturbing.

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written by Amina , December 29, 2007

He was on a ramble. He even insulted the Chinese when he said that anyone who dared rig the elections would be sent to China since the Western world would not grant the asylum.

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some of the missing constituen
written by Stephen Wainaina , December 29, 2007

Here are the figures for the constituencies:

Makadara - 132,630
Olkalou - 90,311
Dagoretti - 120,827
Embakasi - 299,811
Kamukunji - 119,015
Laikipia East - 102,835
Nakuru Town - 155,876
Naivasha - 138,304
Isiolo North - 43,104
Igembe S - 82,946
Tigania E - 58,653
Tigania W - 52,217
Tharaka - 47,261

Here is what Nation has it at,
Raila Odinga 3,726,247
Mwai Kibaki 3,416,139
Kalonzo Musyoka 346,214

This represents 52.73% of all voters.

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Of delays, tenson and runours
written by Kimemia Maina , December 29, 2007

ODM is probably not helping the situation by publishing their own results on their campaign website then declaring the elections won when they know there is still enough uncounted votes for the result to change. Even worse is that that they are playing the rigging card when Kenyan are so anxious for a clean election but the ECK also has questions to answer as to why they allowed a situation where every Tom, Dick or Harry seems to have been able to publish results before them and as to why there seem to be so many errant Returning Officers lying down on the job.

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62 constituencies
written by Stephen Wainaina , December 29, 2007

Come on People, this is a significant number of constituencies. Why can we not be more mature and simply wait!

These are the unreported constituencies,
Central Province
Ol Kalau, Kiambaa and Limuru

Eastern Province
Isiolo North, Igembe, Tigania East, Tigania West, Imenti North, Imenti South, Tharaka, Mutito, Kangundo, Kathiani, Mwala, Mbooni, Kilome, Makueni, Kibwezi.

Rift Valley Province
Nakuru Town, Molo, Laikipia East, Naivasha, Sotik, Buret, Ainamoi, Baringo East, Baringo Central, Kajiado North,Turkana North, Turkana Central, Kacheliba, Kapenguria

Western Province
Malava, Emuhaya, Kimilili,

Nyanza Province
Muhoroni, Rangwe, Ndhiwa, South Mugirango, Bomachoge, Bobasi, Nyaribari Chache, Kitutu Chache,

Coast Province
Kisauni, Changamwe, Likoni, Mvita, Msambweni, Kinango, Bahari, Magarini,Garsen,

North Eastern
Fafi, Ijara, Wajir North, Wajir West,

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written by Kamale , December 29, 2007

The EU, Commonwealth and US observer missions have said that they will only recognise legal results announced by ECK and asked all parties to desist from activities and utterances that only heighten tension.

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Predicted this a long time ago
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Many of us predictedthis very eventuality a long time ago. The vested interests in Kenya will NEVER let go off power willingly. It is not in their nature.

Folks, unhinged and just been defeated in this election is a system that has existed since 1963, i.e, Kenyatta-Moi-Kibaki system. Do you guys know that MOi literally bakrolled most of Kibaki's '07 presidential campaign?

When Moi handed over power peacefully to Kibaki in 2002 he was not afraid to do so because both were birds of a feather. This time though, the system is VERY AFRAID of the consequnces.

The self perpeuating Kenyatta-Moi-Kibaki conglomerate is what is at stake here.

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Mwambu
written by Stephen Wanyama , December 29, 2007

Come off it my brother. ODM are part and parcel of the vested interests. We live in Kenya, look at this list and tell me about a new order, tell me about these vested interests that are refusing to let go.

Sally Kosgei -made Ksh. 100m in one single day
Henry Kosgei - Mr Kenya National Assurance, Mr All-Africa Games
Sammy Mwaita - the Man with the Golden Land, any dodgy land deal he was right in the middle of it
William Ruto - mabillioni ya wananchi, YK92, NSSF, Kenya Pipeline
Raila Odinga - Kshs 4 billion in ten years, ten years in government
Musalia Mudavadi- Moi's boy to the core, hand-picked, hand-guided, multi-millionaire on Moi's account, oh and Goldenburg
Richard Kwach - buy me a judge, now!
Joe Nyagah- Wow, look at me, I am so common, so under-privileged
Zakayo Cheruiyot- Look at my new clothes

Look, enough with the change spiel. Simply look over your ranks.

P.S. Now can we get an explanation for why PNU agents were locked out of voting rooms and counting centres across the country?

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written by Leo , December 29, 2007

Let us all wait for I think that is the fair thing to do. The truth will always win, God always ensures that will happen regardless of how the situation is looking like right now. Let us pray for our country and ourselves because we are all Kenyans and even one death is a big loss to us. Remember everyone is somebody's child.

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written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Come off it my brother. ODM are part and parcel of the vested interests. We live in Kenya, look at this list and tell me about a new order, tell me about these vested interests that are refusing to let go.

Sally Kosgei -made Ksh. 100m in one single day
Henry Kosgei - Mr Kenya National Assurance, Mr All-Africa Games
Sammy Mwaita - the Man with the Golden Land, any dodgy land deal he was right in the middle of it
William Ruto - mabillioni ya wananchi, YK92, NSSF, Kenya Pipeline
Raila Odinga - Kshs 4 billion in ten years, ten years in government
Musalia Mudavadi- Moi's boy to the core, hand-picked, hand-guided, multi-millionaire on Moi's account, oh and Goldenburg
Richard Kwach - buy me a judge, now!
Joe Nyagah- Wow, look at me, I am so common, so under-privileged
Zakayo Cheruiyot- Look at my new clothes

Look, enough with the change spiel. Simply look over your ranks.

P.S. Now can we get an explanation for why PNU agents were locked out of voting rooms and counting centres across the country?

What is at stake here is not a list of who stole a dollar here or there. This is about power, who wants to keep it.

Ask yorself, who stands to lose influence and control?

Finally, Kibaki is Musharaf lite. A tinpot dictator who wants Kenyans to become so agitated so that he can impose martial law and emergency rule.

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no Mwambu
written by gichangi , December 29, 2007

Power, wealth, Privilege, a history of involvement in corrupt government, these are characteristics shared on both sides of the divide. I really cannot understand how you would think that the ODM was different in any way.What they have proved most adept at is creating chaos, and whipping up the masses (taking advantage of them really).

We can see from their land dealings that Raila and Henry Kosgei for example have shown that they do not at all care for the Kenyan mwananchi. They have literally taken from the poor to feed themselves.

By the way, there is trouble here in Mombasa too, can see Swahili mamas running all over the place, magari are bing stopped, no holiday for us then.

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written by Stephen Wanyama , December 29, 2007

update, Nairobi time: 15:39

Pending a few missing constituencies, in a separate press conference PNU has announced that they are winning the election so far at 4.5 million votes against ODM's 4.2 million votes.

The ECK briefing is still going on. Members of the press and party observers are agitated and have requested the presence of ECK Chair Samuel Kivuitu so that he can announce the winner of the presidential race.

If only Raila had been a little patient, now our little country really is on the brink. I had always thought the rent thing and the adui statement were a little too much, now here we can see the results.

P.S. Why would anyone go to loot sodas and bread as a symbol of protest against the government?

Destroying their very own city!!

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Amazing rigging taking place
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Am watching the feeds from KTN and this is becoming laughable. These Kibaki guys are going to outdo Musa Y'Ardua here pretty shortly.

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rowdy ECK briefings
written by Amina , December 29, 2007

I am watching it too! And its getting out of hand!!!

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written by Amina , December 29, 2007

from what I can make out, it seems the last readings, which I did not catch, seem to have different numbers from those announced at the polling stations.

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written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

from what I can make out, it seems the last readings, which I did not catch, seem to have different numbers from those announced at the polling stations.

Very true what you just said. The Kibaki people were waiting to find out by how many votes they were down by then cover the difference with rigged votes from their strognholds. They are adding votes.

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written by mike , December 29, 2007

This is not Railas fault wanyama can you not see it is the gover that has caused this?delaying elections results etc what the hell?raila had nothing to do with the state of the country right now.

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That\'s why Kihara and Kigano
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Now I understand why Kibaki appointed his family lawyer, Kihara Muttu, as deputy head of ECK. He also appointed this man Muturi Kigano who was just laughable in an interview I watched last night.

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different numbers
written by Stephen Wanyama , December 29, 2007

Amina and Mwambu
The results have been like that all day, and from all parts of the country. This is why those who know these things are insisting that only the ECK figures should be considered as final.

By the way, I hear there was a 77.5% turnout in Nithi giving Kibaki 95,000 and Raila 1,200. Total voter register is 123,972.

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written by Kimemia Maina , December 29, 2007

whats the url for the KTN Feed?

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Kimemia
written by Stephen Wanyama , December 29, 2007

If you go to this link here, kalenjin.net, the thing should be streaming on the Right of the Page.

Mike,
The government does not conduct elections, it is the ECK that does so. I am sure the police are not enjoying this situation at all, and neither is the president.

Now, I think the ODM are to blame because of the antics they are pulling.
Do you remember the story on APs and rigging?
Do you remember the story on Anniversary towers and an office on the 13th floor?
DO you remember the story on ballot papers in Belgium?
Do you remember Mololine?

The ODM has at every opportunity striven to stoke the fires, fan the flames, pour oil on the burn-up, and so on. The announcements today by the ODM may very well have changed our country for ever. I have been reading the ODM people's articles throughout, one thing was very clear, they were never going to accept defeat.

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Get your facts right
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Having watched these returns, am sure that this election is being rigged by Kibaki and his appointed commissioners like Kihara Muttu.

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let\'s be responsible
written by gichangi , December 29, 2007

Yes, Stephen the ODM certainly has been irresponsible. These are hard times for everyone, and I am sure that there will be every attempt by the ODM to paint every small occassion as a large scale attempt to defraud Kenyans. You really have to give it to them for propaganda.

Remember also the KTN expose about APs being transported across the country to cause mayhem, and the death that it led to. No facts, just 100% innuendo.
Remember they have been telling wananchi since the summer that there was no way they could be beaten. In fact there is an article on this website foretelling exactly this situation, an attempt by ODM to win the election at all costs, to pick up on the slightest irregularities and whip the mwananchis up into an eternal frenzy.

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written by Mike , December 29, 2007

The gover had planned to rig all along.All the things ODM predicted (APs,molololine etc)happened as reported by media should they have kept their mouths shut.ECK and gover should not deny people thier right anyway thats how it works the way i see it .Kibaki has a case to answer in court

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no Mike!
written by gichangi , December 29, 2007

Mike you are missing the point, those things did not happen as reported. I can see you walking out of your house and then report that to mean that you are going to rob a bank, I can show video of you going walking and then run it with a voice-over claiming here is Mike, walking suspiciously.
That is very very different from what we are talking about here. Why would Kibaki pick 35 APs from every district to go around the country rigging? Are you suggesting that the government believes all APs are pro-Kibaki?

Again, the Mololine incident, Willian Ruto has already come out and made clear that the allegations were proven baseless.

This is exactly what I am talking about, look at Mwambu's comments. ODM people never pull back, you are goading our little country to mayhem. Have you not heard, crowds are like fire, easy to start but very difficult to control.

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Kibaki is George W.Bush and Mu
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

What would happen in the event Kibaki rigs himself in? Kenya will never be the same, just ask George W.Bush in the aftermath of his stolen 2000 election. He became a total caricaure and one of the most vilified persons in the US.

Hope Kibaki does not steal this election from the Kenyan people.

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updates
written by Stephen Wainaina , December 29, 2007

[updated Nairobi time: 16:39]

Hon Ruto, ODM, requests Kivuitu to allow party agents to verify the Nithi votes.

Let us also verify the Langata votes, which I understand were counted in an ODM only atmosphere. And those from Nyanza too, where PNU agents were chased out of the rooms.

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written by Mike , December 29, 2007

Democracy will never be the same in Kenya no matter who wins.Kibaki has a case to answer.They have ruined democracy and the steps forward made .PNU,government and some ODM elements.Kenyans should not accept

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George Bush?
written by gichangi , December 29, 2007

I thought the Americans were solidly behind Raila Odinga?

This is what the ODM has become infamous for, name-calling. Let us be patient and await the results.

Mwambu
Kenya would never be the same from when Raila told us that we were adui, Kenya was never going to be the same after Raila pushed the election based on hatred for the GEMA. Read any Kenyan forum now, and tell me how it feels to be GEMA, hated across the country, your shop burned, accused of being greedy, murderous and complicit in every manner of crime.
Even our tenants are asked not to pay us rent, and no one can defend us, because we are the rich, right?

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written by Mike , December 29, 2007

Gichangi you are the one who has it wrong .you and all the others who have made it anti/pro gema.dont buy into this .This election is about the election now not kikuyu/antikikuyu we dint care we jst want a free and fair election.preach prokikuyu somewhere else kenyans are tired of that talk.tell us something new

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Gichangi : Stop whining
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Who called anyone adui? I,personally have no problems with any Kikuyus, but like many Kenyans, I have major problems with the corrupt and very incompetent Kibaki who incidentally happens to be Kikuyu.

Look, when Moi was president I and many Kenyans had problems with him too but not with Kalenjins.

gichangi, stop whining.

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yes Wainaina
written by Stephen Wainaina , December 29, 2007

Please tell them. I have been reading this anti-GEMA bile all over the internet for a long time and now I can see the consequences. Why are people stoning and looting Kikuyu and Asian shops?

Mike
Let me give you a little errand. Please go to any foreign newspaper, please read any Kenyan forum or blog and you will quickly notice the election is about putting the Kikuyu in their place. That is what this election is primarily about.
P.S. People are beginning to hoard food now, especially in the larger urban areas.

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written by Advocatus Diaboli , December 29, 2007

A Raila win is on the cards. I have been sifting through global media houses like Reuters etc and the opinion is that Raila will win. I thought Kibaki was smarter than that. In 1988 after Moi tried to rig him out of Othaya through Mlolongo vote and provincial admin, Kibaki quipped: even rigging requires intelligence! His attempt in 2007 lacks that smartness too

Watch this fellow. He will go far.

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written by Mike , December 29, 2007

I know the foriegn press is writing bullshit.Sadly people think it is about antikikuyu .it is not.this is now about a free and fair elections what people usually do on the streets are perpetrated mostly by misguided people.lets focus on the real issues and how to move forward.Kenyans should not accept theses results no matter what an independent court should

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Wainaina, Gichangi stop it
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Wainaina and Gichangi, you two guys are deliberately whipping up tribal sentiments.

The only reason why Kibaki even got one million votes is because of the large GEMA vote. His tally is 80 % from GEMA and only 20% from the rest of Kenya. Check out your facts, Kibaki is unpopular evrywhere else in Kenya but Central and Esstern parts inhabited by Merus and Embus. In Western Province, absent Wamalwa who got him most of his 2002 votes, Kibaki is not very popular.

Kibaki is stealing this election from the Kenyan people.

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written by gichangi , December 29, 2007

I need to ask this of this, would you ODM people really accept any result but a Raila victory?

You are talking about the parliamentary seats but what you are forgetting is that in many of these places, the total for pro-Kibaki candidates was higher than that of the ODM candidate, so there is a big difference between the MP numbers and the national election.

Now as to elites vs. the poor. Please do not insult Kenyans. The ODM vanguard is a who's who of the people who have enervated this country, brought her down to her knees. There are also such people in the PNU, but the PNU is not as hypocrticial to pretend it represents a poor man's revolution.

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written by a guest , December 29, 2007

Are you serious??!! Wow! You have some serious issues.
People need to stop jumping the gun and wait for the other results to come in.
Personal opinions of the future are not only irrelevant but totally ignorant.

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written by a guest , December 29, 2007

What government? Kenyans just love to point fingers.
Grow up and take equal blame. It takes two...

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written by mike , December 29, 2007

u write as if ODM supportes met and decided what to do.the results should NOT be accepted no matter what.i write only my view and not other ODM spporters my view even if raila wins the election was still flawed so court.i am an odm supporter and this is where i stand stop generalizing gichangi.rise above it

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Kibaki part of problem
written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

Kibaki, Jomo kenyatta and Moi messed Kenya up since independence. If you look at this man's history you will lern that he has been a top lieutenant in the corrupt Kenyatta in the 1960s, close to Moi as VP in 1978-1988.

So, please do not distort the facts that Kibaki has ever done much to help the Kenyan poor.

Kibaki is part of the problem as much as is Moi.

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written by a guest , December 29, 2007

Nazlin Umar is now talking about the rigging of votes in Kamukunji.

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written by Mwambu , December 29, 2007

I am now listening to the speech on KTN. Actually, the PNU "victory" in Kamukunji has no been nullified by Kivuitu.

Why is Kibaki rigging himself in?

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written by a guest , December 29, 2007

It's really unfortunate that the whole ODM platform is anti- this or that and not for anything. They have incited tribalism in Kenya and, for the first time ever, in the diaspora. Their worldwide fund-raising campaigns promoted tribalism and divided Kenyans. Their mudslinging and spins are the American style of politicking that Raila so greatly admires.
I'm certainly not surprised at this outcome and the continuous incitation of violence.

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Confusing isues
written by Kimemia Maina , December 29, 2007

The Kamkunji case involves the intervention by Margaret Wanjiru's youths that caused chaos in some of the polling stations and messed up the vote there not the presidential election directly

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written by gichangi , December 29, 2007

Kivuitu says Maragwa figures are larger than the total electorate there. Some of the returning officers seem to have pulled a disappearing act.

Kimemia
Wanjiru is in Starehe not Kamukunji.

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guys ! guys!
written by newafroguy , December 29, 2007

How about we slow down just a bit. The blame game isn't going to remake anyone's broken dreams. My take is that we have taken to extremes such that a common ground seems unattainable. Don't we have to live with each other after the elections?

Both sides have erred somewhere but let us not stick to extreme corners. The so called anti GEMA bile is a reaction to GEMAISM that was ochestrated by Kibaki's inner circle.

However, those few individuals should not make a whole community be castigated. Also the members of the community should not react in a manner that confirms the stereotype.

Looking at the voting pattern one can see why many Kenyans feel that Central Kenya has isolated itself. This was not ODM's making but rather the aftermath of the events preceding and following the referendum. ODM merely capitalized on the prevailing mood.

Still many Kenyans acted maturely and voted for something other than tribe in this election. That's why Kibaki received a decent vote in his main competitors' strongholds. Therefore certain communities should not get a blanket condemnation as anti GEMA as some on this forum would have it.

Half truths, selective criticism, and extreme positions will only destroy us.

Jameni twendeni taratibu nawaomba.

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written by Kimemia Maina , December 29, 2007

My bad...

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Let us respect our democracy
written by hassan , December 29, 2007

it is a sad day for kenya ----eti kibaki come back !

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written by Mike , December 29, 2007

Sad day.i agree.disappointing.

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written by nyangara , December 29, 2007

These updates are good and efficient ... at least someone is taking the time to update us ... what is not so healthy is having our own little Kenya here... and by that I am Kisii and I know we are far from having a president hail from my area. But that is besides the point ... when will we ever get past the point of electing leaders just because they are from our tribe, province .... all sorts of alikeness if I may call it that.

I am as bothered as anyone else here at the delay but I would wish we would not wage our own little war here...

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written by gichangi , December 29, 2007

Welcome to democracy people. I do not want Raila to be President. I think he would be the worst possible thing to happen to Kenya, he has already proved it. However, I would respect his victory if/ when the ECK announces it.

From another forum,

I think the whole problem originates from the fact that results from areas where Raila did well mostly came in first giving the impression that he had already won. The alleged gap of hundreds of thousands was simply not believable or was at best reflective of votes from certain regions. The polls showed it was going to be a close race, even the last Gallup poll had Kibaki ahead.
Another issue was the fact that many ministers lost. But the issue is, although PNU split its parliamentary votes among parties, all their presidential votes went to Kibaki.
Unfortunately, some people are bent on forcing change rather than waiting for a sensible conclusion. What is to be gained by stoning cars and looting? If young men stone cars in Kisumu, isnt it likely that they are stoning fellow ODM supporters?

I would also add that exit polls insist that Kibaki would win, these are far more accurate than any opinion polls as they factor in actual turnout! The science is solid and the results coming in are proving it in fact.

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Cabinet Survivors
written by Doris Sadera , December 29, 2007

Kenyans have spoken,how can 80% of Kibakis votes come from GEMA/GEMA heavy areas?

An overwhelming majority of non-GEMA Kenyans don't want kibaki. Even if you take both Luo and GEMA votes out of the total tally, you would still have an overwhelming expression of the Kenyan people against the KIbaki gov't.

Here are the five ministers who survived this election (the most interesting thing is that this includes ministers from central who were central to the Kibaki administration):

Amos Kimunya
Soita Shitanda
John Michuki
Noah Wekessa
Ali Makwere

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all votes count
written by emmo opoti , December 29, 2007

Doris,
SO what are you suggesting exactly? That GEMA people are not important? That they should not vote so much?
It is purely a numbers game, end of story. Highest candidate with a 25% + representation in 5 provinces is the winner. It really does not matter that the rest of the country has decided to gang-up against the GEMA.

P.S. I think it is really funny to attack some community, and then accuse them of not uniting with you.

I had heard before of vans going through Kajiado asking Kikuyus to vote properly, or else. Now I see on another forum a comment that they have been given until 0400 tomorrow to leave or else. And yet there are still some people who say this election was not about putting the GEMA in their place!

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written by Annette Keino , December 29, 2007

Latest results
Raila Odinga 3,880,053 48 %
Mwai Kibaki 3,842,051 47 %
Kalonzo Musyoka 346,214 4 %

But the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation has different numbers.

Mwai Kibaki 4.3M
Raila Odinga 3.9M
18 constituencies left to go

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experience the reality.
written by chris , December 29, 2007

been reading and following you all along and at some point i got irritated coz you guys are not being honest with yourselves. let common sense prevail and not tribal leanings. your kind of talk can be predicted by your names!

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written by Annette Keino , December 29, 2007

I agree. When people talk about rigging, it is based on the assumption that it is only the government side that can commit electoral fraud. Some of the votes from Nyanza have been extremely odd, some even show a 99% turnout. I smell a rat there, just as Maragwa has been shown to be ridiculous. Someone had shown on this site before that rigging was possible only at the grassroots and that it was an equal opportunity reality, with ODM perhaps having an edge given their wider representation.
It has also been wrong for ODM to keep releasing results throughout the day, giving their followers the illusion of vvictory long before the election had been decided. Essentially this is what again had been written here, the Insidious Coup from ODM, a psychological battering of the PNU and its supporters into submission. In the end, with their one million plus advantage, they succeeded in making out that it was Kibaki who needed to catch-up. There is actually an effort to make out that Kibaki cannot go above 3.7 million, no reason is given it is just a mob deciding the rules.
Some have declared in the past, that these are psychological tactics, and the ODM's incessant rigging claims have doubtless done damage to the government but their final attempt to declare victory before the ECK's announcement is perhaps the most irresponsible act of the last five years. This is why the public is angry, their leaders have decided the result, and they are convinced anything else is rigged.

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written by nyangara , December 29, 2007

Chris,

True what you say ... lets all just keep calm and see where this goes ... going back and forth and taking such measures as to pointing fingers is not going to change the situation in Kenya today or any day soon ...

I still think that we are far from having a free and fair election in Kenya (my opinion & sticking by it) ... not as long as we base our elections on tribal lines as we do now. Okay so this is in-born or so we make ourselves believe. Who even knows what the platform for this candidates? I do not even know what they stand for ... all I know is that with every General election comes a new campaign promise which in turn ends up in the "basket of unfulfilled promises"

Regardless I still love Kenya and would not trade it for any other ... lol

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Kenya will not be the same
written by Neema , December 29, 2007

Fine, let Kibaki win...but how to be president with support from your ethnic grup alone? Acheni zenu..

Wakenya wamekataa. Take luo and kiuk factor from the equation and tell us how many Kenyans want Kibaki?

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Thoughts on a Close Election
written by Silaha , December 29, 2007

Neema: There is no question that Raila has far BROADER support than Kibaki. From Lunga Lunga to Mandera to Lokichoggio to Tarime, Raila is clearly the dume. However, the election rules were clearly known to all prior to the beginning of this process. If the President gets "support from your ethnic group alone" yet still wins according to the rules, then the rest of us will have to accept it.

All:

Per the Nation, the difference is 38,002 votes and 21 constituencies to go, truly nail biting. With 8,175,056 votes tallied that is a difference of 0.46% or 4 votes in every thousand. How close can an election get?

This is certainly a moment that calls for reflection. Shame on those of us who did not vote. (This includes me, oh, how I pine for an absentee ballot)

Here is what some great thinkers have said about voting (or not voting).

Those who stay away from the election think that one vote will do no good: 'Tis but one step more to think one vote will do no harm.

Ralph Waldo Emerson
American Poet, Lecturer and Essayist, 1803-1882

People often say that, in a democracy, decisions are made by a majority of the people. Of course, that is not true. Decisions are made by a majority of those who make themselves heard and who vote - a very different thing.

Walter Henry Judd
American Congressman, 1898-1994

Here's something for those of you who still have a sense of humor at this tense time (or are merely cynical).

A week before the 1958 Gridiron Dinner in Washington DC (which lampoons Presidents and prominent politicians) Joe Kennedy advised his son Jack that "to be terribly successful, you have to get plenty of laughs."

The big event occurred on March 15, 1958. Ironically, before [John F.] Kennedy stepped to the rostrum, the preceding sketch had lampooned Jack's father for trying to buy the election for his son.

When it was Jack's turn, he reached into his breast pocket and pulled out a "telegram" from his "generous daddy." "ear Jack," he read, "on't buy a single vote more than is necessary - I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for a landslide." The audience howled.

From John F. Kennedy: A Biography, by Michael O'Brien

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written by emmo opoti , December 29, 2007

Neema and others
The fact that the majority of Kenyans are voting for someone who is not of their tribe does not mean they are not voting on tribal lines. Tribalism, like racism and all other forms of discrimination need not be prejudices for, they can also be prejudices against.

Silaha,
I believe that there are times, when neutrality, a refusal to bow to either of two powerful but nefarious forces is the very definition of courage and integrity. The only reason I got involved in this election's politics is the fact that I saw one side to be too dangerous, and the harm that it could do possibly irreversible.

Or is it just that I am allergic to 'movements'.

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Kibaki a tribal candidate
written by a guest , December 29, 2007

Kibaki was and is still a tribal candidate. GEMA votes account for 70 per cent of his total. This election as was the 2002 election was always about preparing the stage for Uhuru Kenyatta in 2012.

Kenya was never a nation and is less so after this electiont.

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Sense??
written by Adam , December 29, 2007

OK so both sides were locked out at various stations - so lets not make that an issue at this point.
Dont you think it is somewhat absurd that kibaki gained more than 1.5M votes in less than 24 hrs while raila only gained what...about 300k?
It makes no sense! and why is it that constituencies as far off as north horr, samburu and wajir could get their votes in before kiambaa and limuru?? Which are just a stones throw away from nai?

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How does Kibaki rule
written by Khwa Chesamis , December 29, 2007

It is easy to steal an election as Kibaki has just done, but how does he rule Rift Valley, Western, Nyanza, parts of Coast, and North Eastern?

Letimicy matters.

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How does Kibaki rule
written by Khwa Chesamis , December 29, 2007

It is easy to steal an election as Kibaki has just done, but how does he rule Rift Valley, Western, Nyanza, large parts of Coast, and North Eastern?

Legitimacy matters.

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written by Adam , December 29, 2007

@Haji - Dude stop being so shallow. This kind of neandatharlistic thinking is what Kenya doesnt need at the moment!

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why Raila caught up
written by Stephen Wainaina , December 29, 2007

Adam,
Raila caught up because the Kibaki friendly constituencies reported later than the Raila Odinga constituencies. It is those who are pretending Kenya is one large constituency like Ireland who are to blame. Different candidates get massive majorities in different places.

I could turn the question on you and ask how could Raila possibly open such a large gap in such a short time, and then only a few after? Look at the constituencies and not the number, that is what is most important.

Anonymous,
I would pose the same question to you. Why is it that all these Kenyan communities refused to vote for Kibaki? I mean rural poverty for example is down 35%, farmers are paid better for their produce, corruption is for a fact down, the government is delivering in a big way. Now add to that the fact that the opposition is made up of the very clowns Kenya rejected in 2002, the very epitome of bad government.

Now explain to me why, apart from an anti-Kikuyu spirit, many Kenyans have decided not to back Kibaki. He has done some good, and the opposition is a bad opposition. So why are Kenyans choosing them?

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written by Adam , December 29, 2007

I believe that there are times, when neutrality, a refusal to bow to either of two powerful but nefarious forces is the very definition of courage and integrity.

Are you serious - sitting on the fence is to me ALWAYS a sign of cowardice - inability to take a stand - but then thats just me

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And I dont understand why people are insisting on the whole tribal issue - this election was about The Kibaki govt and his group of "Goons" and nothing to do with the GEMA community in general.

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Adam the Warrior
written by emmo opoti , December 29, 2007

I am always very suspicious of brave people. When someone talks about courage, it is more often than not just bravado.
I cannot think of anything that requires greater courage than standing up to a mob.

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re: why \"Kibaki\" caught up
written by Adam , December 29, 2007

And 90% of these "Kibaki friendly" constituencies just happen to be from central which is just a stone's throw away - and they "ALL" just happened to be delayed?? Come on!! Iko kitu!

I think there's already too much propaganda going round from all sides so i'll just stop at that

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written by Khwa Chesamis , December 29, 2007

I believe that there are times, when neutrality, a refusal to bow to either of two powerful but nefarious forces is the very definition of courage and integrity.

Are you serious - sitting on the fence is to me ALWAYS a sign of cowardice - inability to take a stand - but then thats just me .

And I dont understand why people are insisting on the whole tribal issue - this election was about The Kibaki govt and his group of "Goons" and nothing to do with the GEMA community in general.

Very true. This election was not an anti-Kikuyu vote. After all, there was no one called GEMA listed on the ballot.

Simply put, Kenyans were using their constitutionally given right to vote in a free and fair election for a president of their choice sans rigging and ballot tampering.

Many other Kenyans (for example, Bungoma youth voted overwhelmingly for ODM), were also voting against a system they felt was institutionalising and continuing on a worsening path of economic and social stratification.

The anti-GEMA sentiments is just a tool being perpetuated and exploited by Kibaki and his cronies to mobilize the base.

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written by manta ray , December 29, 2007

Some of the comments from ODM supporters here are just outright infantile and stupid. Assuming that it is true that Kibaki got 70% of his votes from GEMA, so what? And what is wrong with that? Didn't Raila also get 99% of the Luo votes? The fact that he managed to cobble together an alliance of other major tribes to counter perceived GEMA numbers and hegemony, a strategy WHICH DID NOT WORK as it now seems, is the outcome and result of a deliberate calculation he CHOSE to employ but which has proved to have been a poor strategy and has now failed. He will therefore have to live with the consequences of his own blinkered and simplistic political thinking. He rolled the dice and came up trumps. who should he blame except himself?
How on earth did he expect the GEMA communities to react after continuously calling them adui? Did he want them to just fold their hands and sit back and accept the demonisation he relentlessly whipped up for the last 4 years? They certainly would not! He created the consequent laager mentality in GEMA and by voting in the numbers that they did, they were simply fighting back with the one weapon they knew they have always had, their sheer numbers.
It is therefore dishonest and cynical to protest about the way GEMA voted unless ofcourse you believe their votes have less value than other Kenyans. The fact is that whether you love them or hate them, GEMA are a very important factor in Kenyan politics and any reasonable and serious political strategist looking to win the Presidency must factor that into his calculations. How they do that in order to win is up to them.
They could start by becoming Nationalist Statesmen and Kenyans first and foremost, not Luos,Luhyas or Kalenjins first and then Kenyans second.

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re: Adam the Warrior
written by Adam , December 29, 2007

The stand to support one party does not necessarily equate to a refusal to bow to the other party.

Standing up to a mob can also be sign of stupidity and not bravado depending on how you do it and how you look at it..dont you think? Its all bout being smart

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written by kevoh , December 29, 2007

Anyone surpporting Kibaki, saying he's a winner please tell me how Central votes can outnumber Rift-Valley votes.

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Kibaki as Sadddam
written by Khwa Chesamis , December 29, 2007

A friend who works as a correspondent for a prominent foreign newspaper out of Nairobi just reminded me that he has seen anomalies in this election that remind him of elections staged during Saddam Hussein's reign of Iraq.

As he tells me, there are areas in Central-Mt.Kenya region that have returns in excess of registered voters. This is what started the fracas last night.

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written by Adam , December 29, 2007

@Silaha - I think you took my remark out of context. I was talking about voting and not about taking sides on tribal lines or otherwise

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written by emmo opoti , December 29, 2007

More power to your brave elbow then, but courage and intelligence are two very different things. I am thinking our country needs much more of the latter and much less of the former.
Part of the reason for our present mess is this kifua-mbele politics, daring people, threatening them, warning them and so on.

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Stop and Think
written by Silaha , December 29, 2007

Some questions for y'all then some predictions:

To my ODM brothers and sisters, is there any way a Mwai Kibaki victory can be perceived as fair to you?

To my PNU compatriots, would you still accept Mwai Kibaki as the victor if there was indisputable evidence of gerrymandering? Or would you stand side by side with the ODMers and demand free-and-fair elections (and results).

@Haji: Your words sounded ominously familiar. Views like yours are what make the whole majimbo argument scary as hell to so many Kenyans. Do you see yourself in the following:

After Habyarimana of Rwanda was killed when his plane was shot down in April 1994, Radio Television Libre des Mille Collines called for a "final war" to "exterminate the cockroaches." It played a role in organizing militias, broadcast lists of people to be killed and, above all, incited hatred:

"In truth, all Tutsis will perish. They will vanish from this country ... They are disappearing little by little thanks to the weapons hitting them, but also because they are being killed like rats."

My predictions:

Using Ory's http://www.kenyanpundit.com/?p=377 list of outstanding constituencies as a basis (copied below) it appear that if the current provisional results, i.e. RAO: 3.880M, MK: 3.842M hold, then Mwai Kibaki will be declared the winner of this election.

Secondly, if Mwai Kibaki is declared winner there will be a short spell of viscous riots, where Kikuyus and their establishments will be targeted. These will die down relatively quickly though, because as MLK Jr said

The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility

Thirdly, for all of you who are hoping for an immediate vote-of-no-confidence, it will not happen. 209 of the newly elected 210 MPs do not want to go through a fresh election if parliament is dissolved at its first sitting. (The exception of Raila who has shown willingness in the past to seek fresh mandate)

This is truly a pivotal moment for our country, we have every opportunity to be an example to all if we carry out the election in an exemplary fashion.

-Silaha

Here is the list, I cannot ascertain its veracity.
Kisauni
Garsen
Starehe
Mandera Central
Kathiani
Kitui West
Mwala
Kibwezi
Maragua (more votes than registered voters submitted)
Gatundu South
Turkana North
Turkana Central
Kachileba
Changamwe
Kajiado North
Malaba
Ikolomani
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irregularities
written by newafroguy , December 29, 2007

At this point it may be too early to make conclusions but cmmon guys, the government really did play some underhand techniques. I have several friends from Central Kenya who tell me that they sent their ID details back home and somehow were able to secure voter's cards even though they live abroad. This not only inflated the number of registered voters to justify a rig but were actually used to cast double ballots.

I have no tangible proof of this but it sounds plausible and was intimated to me voluntarily amid boasting. Something is amis guys. Strange blackouts and phone outs in certain areas .....even Kivuitu admitted "not knowing what was cooking" This regime has duped us before in broad daylight during the standard raid and the whole Arturs debacle. Iko kitu.

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Bumbling thieves
written by Khwa Chesamis , December 29, 2007

Kibaki's team will be hard-pressed to explain how a constituency with 75,000 registered voters is suddenly showing 105,000 votes for Kibaki.

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re: well Adam
written by Adam , December 29, 2007

I am thinking our country needs much more of the latter and much less of the former.

Totally agree - we need more of the latter - which am sure both the leaders possess. Sad thing is that most people think there's only one way to skin a cat - different people have different strategies to get to the same goal (which in this case i think is development of our country).

Part of the reason for our present mess is this kifua-mbele politics, daring people, threatening them, warning them and so on.

Which i think both sides are guilty of - its only the degree that varies!

And on another note - does anyone else think its annoying how, all that most of the western media is reporting are the chaos and machete wielding individuals in a few (and i stress the few) areas portraying the WHOLE of Kenya as a state of barbarians?

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The Truth
written by haji , December 29, 2007

I didn't start this Adam....so...i hope they are able to finish it...AND I REPEAT [edited by moderator]

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Rule
written by haji , December 29, 2007

Kikuyus will be - in central province..[edited by moderator]...period..

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written by Adam , December 29, 2007

Correct me if am wrong but i think the "adui" he was referring to was the Kibaki govt (or rather PNU) and not GEMA as a community.

And no matter how you look at it Raila was never going to get the GEMA vote just the same way Kibaki was not going to get the Luo vote!

As for becoming "Nationalist Statesmen" how exactly do you think they could do that? (That is a hard one..for any leader in Kenya - at least for the foreseeable future). And am saying this from a point of knowing people who would NEVER vote for a leader outside their own community even if the person running from their community was some half wit. You have to admit that the rural population will almost always support their own if s/he is running for the top position.

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non violence
written by knjenga , December 29, 2007

What legal process exists if any to challenge a presidential election in Kenya?

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Emotionalism
written by haji , December 30, 2007

for a love of a country i might have uttered some words on this blog which are not lovely at all. my words were distastefull and i take them back. lets all be reasonable and let reason guide us in out country decision making process. there a few people in kibaki gov who are up to the same mischviousnes excuted by the older regime Moi...my final point the whole or majority if kenyans regardless of their tribal affiliation have said no to kibaki policies and cannot placate all the people who have voted against him....so...the vote of no confidence may very well work here and we will be back to another elections in six months time.

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Wananchi robbed
written by Real Patriot , December 30, 2007

Kibaki in collobaration with his cabal have just executed the Great Vote Robbery 2007. That is Kibaki's legacy to Kenya.

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student
written by Alfred , December 30, 2007

The best way to ensure stability in Kenya as per the current stand of things is to announce results the are free and fair; especially if people lose confidence of ECK then there will be nothing for anyone on either side to trust. I also think that a Kibaki win will not go down well in most of the country and Kenya will be more tribal than ever. Personally I read mischief in all these, almost everyone agrees that the opinion polls were doctored to show a neck-on-neck race. Is it just a coincidence or it was part of the extensive plan to rig the elections? My two cents.

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Kibaki oath @ S.House
written by Real Patriot , December 30, 2007

Kibaki will be taking his oath of office at State House today. They have tallied the votes and given him 4.3m to Raila's 4.08m votes.

The inauguration venue has been moved from Uhuru Park for obvious reasons.

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banker
written by Marilyn , December 30, 2007

id cards from diaspora abroad, i guess that explians part of the inflated figures. Surely we are not fools, have you guys watched the U tube video on the opinion of the south african professor. Obviously Kenyans are not fools and are not incompetent..how can we accept results silently, I pass a no confidence vote if Kibaki wins...and guys we are all smart, we know there has been rigging, whether we are kikuyu or not...call a spade a spade

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Marilyn
written by Stephen Wainaina , December 30, 2007

What of the blatant rigging in ODM areas? Nyatike 99% for example? Why is Kajiado North with a turnout of only 60% while ODM places not too many kilometres away have 80%?
The whole of the election was flawed, and PNU agents were refused access to vote counting in large parts of Nyanza and the North Rift Valley. God only knows what happened there.

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written by achola , December 30, 2007

I feel you Nyangara,this election has been lost regardless of who is declared winner, simply because it has undone all steps taken towards national unity in the past-recall 2002 election? we were the most optimistic people on earth back then, and it was because we felt for the first time, that we had risen above ethnic chauvinism-2007 will be a sad part of our history,for all of us, even the GEMA.the only step to take in the future to avoid this heinious debacle is to amend the constitution to ensure any person running for national office has desirability accross the board.the president must be a person who garners the majority of votes in the most number of provinces,and if a tie occurs in a result like this,only then should we resort to simple majority.That way good men will lead us, regardless of how small their tribe,and that will be the only way to kill negative ethnicity in politics.

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Whither Kenya
written by Jandege , December 30, 2007

Whoever wins will form a government lacking in credibility. Whatever has happened will have greater ramification for Kenya as a nation for years to come. If Kibaki is declared winner in a flawed process, he will leave a legacy of having polarised the country.
Just watched Al Jazeera, Kikuyus are being targeted in Rift Valley, Western and Nyanza Provinces. Kenya is disintegrating, pray for Kenya brothers.

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written by Andale Odero , December 30, 2007

Correct, his rigging lucks some rigging professionality and appears to be a childish game because even anybody who has never gone to school will definately note it out.

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written by Andale , December 30, 2007

And that is why Hon. Raila Odinga is absolutely correct to say that he won,t go to court about elections with ECK/Hon. Kibaki

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new story... same book
written by khoja tansra , December 30, 2007

i thought that the elections would bring in new blood and euphorism for change. bus alas the behaviour from both camps just proves that politics will never change and instead of slowing down on the rhethoric and personal insults all i observe is escalation of the other.
What a pity! This was a chance to show the rest of the world that this new 'democracy' is eligible enough to conduct its changing of attire with decency and equilibrum.However we have failed.... yet again. Happy reading.

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