Of hierarchies, powers and privileges PDF Print E-mail
Written by Stephen Wainaina   
Tuesday, 11 March 2008

It was perhaps to be expected that a document as vague as the national accord signed by President Kibaki and ODM head Raila Odinga should soon run into a stream of different interpretations. Kamale T had already written a perspicacious article here, highlighting exactly how vague both the National Accord and the Act of Parliament that would entrench it in law were regarding not just the intended hierarchy but also the powers, duties and responsibilities of the offices newly created. It also shows,and the president's speech when opening parliament underlines, that while the signatories to the accord were President Kibaki and Hon. Odinga, the wording of the pact is such as would admit the ODM-K, KANU, Safina and other parties into the pre-accord PNU coalition.

Following from this, in a move that would have surprised none but the keenest stargazers, the Secretary to the Cabinet and the government spokesman yesterday laid out what the government's intentions were regarding the agreement and the positions of the new officers.  According to their statements, the new premiership would be a far cry from the elevated executive premiership that, son et lumière aside, the ODM and its supporters have been celebrating. 

The  chief civil servant also made clear that all the new officers would be directly responsible to the president who would retain his position as the head of the government and state, and also as chairman of the cabinet. He also made clear that Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka would still precede the Prime Minister both in protocol and in seniority in government as the president's principal assistant and Leader of Government Business in Parliament.

It is unlikely that the emasculated Vice Presidency or the diminution of the ODM-K celebrated by the media and the Law Society will come to pass, especially as the importance of the party and its MPs becomes crucial in propping up the PNU position on resource allocation, writing legislation and reforming the constitution and ultimately on the matter of the Kibaki succession. What the ODM seem to be left with here is a position that is roughly analogous to that presently held by Muthaura and in spite of the most fertile imagination on the part of the ODM media, the act seems not to confer more than a very vague sense of importance on the Prime Minister.

What is curious now is whether the 'administrative' position taken by the Secretary to the Cabinet will be retained as the official government position, especially as the Justice and Constitutional Affairs Minister Martha Karua has previously warned against the public proclamation of positions on the coalition agreement. 



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written by Kamale , March 11, 2008
Stephen,

Make no mistake, Muthaura would never make a statement that is not authorised at the highest level.

What is even important is how ODM reacted to the statement. The statement from ODM was not signed by Raila, Salim Lone, Henry Kosgei, William Ruto or even Prof. Nyong'o, but Amukowa Anangwe - he of New Kanu fame! Do the principals of ODM actually know what we do not know?

I have maintained that the deal is flawed, but it would appear that once the government massaged Raila's ego with all the trappings of power, they knew that he would perhaps not discard the trappings for a small argument with Muthaura. In any case Raila has repeatedly said that a half a loaf was better than nothing - but how half was that loaf?

Part of the problem with the ODM crowd is they seemed to have misinterpreted the agreement to mean that Raila would be executive prime minister even when the agreement was quite clear what his role would be in government. Forget about the constitutionality and common sense of the agreement that you can supervise someone you did not appoint and cannot sack.

Personally I think the SPIRIT of the deal was good and well intended. However the wording leaves so much room for mischief that I would perhaps appeal to both PNU and ODM supporters to lobby their MPs to reject the Act in its present form and ensure that it is redrawn to capture the spirit in the correct words. But will they?
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written by blackstone , March 12, 2008
Great article, even though this whole episode has been very tragic i think it highlights greatly how weak African 'states' are and how politics are not institutionalized. Due to limited resources, there is no second place in Africa.

This is not America, where you lose a Presidential election and your okay, your still a millionaire and senator. No, in Africa if you lose election you instrumentalize violence and utilize it until a coalition government is formed, and you win.
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written by Alfred Lagat , March 12, 2008
What is sad for me is not that the ODMers were so gullible. In fact i was a bit uncomfortable reading all the crap about how to share the cake. What makes me sad is hearing people like Kibaki and Musyoka talk about how we need to make reforms, create employment and resuscitate the economy, they speak so eloquently on what needs to be done then go ahead and do the opposite. They know what needs to be done but they don't do it. Just listen to Musyoka say how bad it is not to have an opposition but sits so comfortably in the VP seat. We realle need a new breed of leaders
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written by Stephen Wanyama , March 12, 2008
Lagat,
Proceeding from that nugget of wisdom, one finds oneself impelled to ask that you implore Raila to shuffle over to the opposition benches and save the country. What do you think? The ODM and its supporters, never too bright (what's new) cannot understand that Kalonzo is now a part of the government, he had declared this express intention at least three months prior to the election. If he and the ODM-K leave Kibaki, Kibaki's government does not have the governing numbers, you geddit?
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Poor Raila
written by Eric , March 12, 2008
It was good that Raila and Kibaki signed the deal, it gave Kenyans a chance to breath and gave the GOK time to go for the murderers. ODM must see what is coming, I can see it.

ODM coalition has 107 seats, PNU coalition has 107. It is unlikely that Kibaki will be present in the vote so PNU has 106 votes. ODM has the speaker so they too have 106. All PNU needs is two votes from the ODM coalition and they can bag the President, Vice President, Prime Minister and one Deputy PM. That would be a big blow to ODM's superegos.

Kibaki would then go ahead and appoint moderate ODM MPs to the cabinet with the blessings of Mugambi Imanyara and his group and Karua (new PM) will be left to supervise and co-ordinate them. By that time, ODM would be on it's knees because the side-lining of the Kalenjins would completely wreck the party.

Why do I say that, well, with only deputy PM job to ODM, Raila would naturally be expected to take it but his pride will not let him. The option of mass protests would become a Luo affair and any attempts to kill in Helldoret would be dealt with by the army already positioned there.

Kibaki, true to his character will laugh off Raila and tell him that he was unable to win the parliament's approval that was part of the deal he himself signed. By the then, the ODM MPs not in government will become the official opposition , the country will be in a constitutional mess but no violence.

The battle for 2012 will have started and I will be part of itsmilies/smiley.gif
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written by Stephen Wanyama , March 12, 2008
Eric,
One hopes Kibaki is not you. I wonder, I really wonder why the PNU will not see that it needs to distribute at least their part of the deal across ethnic lines. Since Kibaki has the Kikuyu position as head of state, the PM, Deputy PM, Chief Whip and Secretary to the Cabinet should never be Kikuyu. That is not just bad manners, it shows a lack of appreciation both for the realities of the political fight and the necessity of winning the Kamba, Kisii and Bukusu votes over on a permanent basis. The Kibaki succession should not include the Kikuyu either. I already here that there are murmurs among the Meru for 2012, that they will work with Raila. The Kamba vote is not yet retrieved, the Bukusu continue to suffer unrewarded since the death of Wamalwa, the Kisii vote is not assured. Kibaki is repeating the very same rounds of stupidity that saw Raila eat into his lead in 2007.
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written by Eric , March 12, 2008
Wanyama,
I hear you. Kibaki is not me, he has advisors, I don't, he has experience, I don't. I totally forgot the tribal arithmentics, I forgot it was Kenya, not TZ.

You are right, they should not all be from the same tribe... my bad
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Rewards
written by James Macharia , March 12, 2008
Eric,
I do not think that PNU will put up a fight as far as the PM slot is concerned, although theoretically we have a tie in parliament as far as the two coalition strengths go.

Wanyama, the Kambas are represented in the form of the Vice President. I'm almost certain that Mutula Kilonzo will get a cabinet spot and probably one more Kamba MP. What are you talking about the Bukusu being unrewarded? Isn't Kombo a Bukusu, who held the local government portfolio, one of the most powerful ministries? Just remember how powerful Moses Mudavadi used to be. Also note that that is the portfolio that Uhuru got, who's the head of KANU, arguably the 3rd biggest party in the coalition. (The Narc-K people have issues).

Doesn't Wetangula, also a Bukusu? and correct me if I'm wrong not hold the foreign affairs portfolio. FYI, the foreign affairs minister is the senior most cabinet minister in some countries. Eg. The USA, In Germany, the leader of the junior coalition partner gets that portfolio, underscoring its importance. And wasn't Wetangula, not part of the governments side negotiating team, giving him a lot of exposure?

The thing that complicates the tribal arithmetic is party strengths. Kalonzo and his ODM-K were rewarded with the VP post. The 3rd largest partner, after KANU and Narc-K figure that one out, should present the Deputy PM. KANU is unfortunately headed by Uhuru and I'm sure he won't relinquish that post for anyone. Narc-K, as far as I know are fronting Karua or Saitoti.

Truth be told this posts like VP, Deputy PM are toothless tigers but they give one the exposure needed for the occupant to launch their bid for 2012.

The Chief whip position on the PNU side went to George Thuo, as far as I know. The only slot left is secretary to the cabinet if they evict Muthaura, but that IMHO, is a position that doesn't carry the political clout for the occupant to get much needed exposure.
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written by a guest , March 12, 2008
This is not America, where you lose a Presidential election and your okay, your still a millionaire and senator. No, in Africa if you lose election you instrumentalize violence and utilize it until a coalition government is formed, and you win.


Good summary.
Cynical.
But true. :-(

Alexander
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re: wacha
written by aeichener , March 12, 2008
Kibaki is repeating the very same rounds of stupidity that saw Raila eat into his lead in 2007.


Stupidity is a highly infectious disease. All the more under African epidemiological conditions.

Alexander
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re: Rewards
written by a guest , March 12, 2008
Eric,
What are you talking about the Bukusu being unrewarded?

Doesn't Wetangula, also a Bukusu?


If you are talking about wooing tribes, then you should be talking about Luhyas as a whole. The Luhya community is comprised of 16 subtribes. Why are you always talking of the Bukusu who are only confined in Bungoma district? How about Kakamega, Vihiga, Mumias, Butere, Nambale, Busia and Teso? For your information, only 50% of the Bukusu subtribe of the Luhya community supported Kibaki, come 2012, whether you put Kalonzo, Uhuru or Karua, the most you will get from Western Kenya if you still insist on this tribe thing is 2%.
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re: Poor Raila
written by a guest , March 12, 2008

The battle for 2012 will have started and I will be part of itsmilies/smiley.gif


I trust will be alive in 2012. Let us watch this space.
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re: Poor Raila
written by a guest , March 12, 2008

Why do I say that, well, with only deputy PM job to ODM, Raila would naturally be expected to take it but his pride will not let him. The option of mass protests would become a Luo affair and any attempts to kill in Helldoret would be dealt with by the army already positioned there.



Raila for your information has a big following. If 2007 presidential elections results are anything to go by; then you will agree with me that Luos who voted for Raila do not amount to 4M. We Raila supporters do not view him as a Luo but as a hero who sacrificed the comfort of his home and family and continuously fought for the second liberation of Kenya. Kalenjins, Luhyas, 80% of Kisiis, Mijikendas, Tesos etc, etc, would rather rally behind Raila than Martha Karua, Kalonzo or even Uhuru.

As bad as he is to you, he is our hero.
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written by James Macharia , March 12, 2008
Eric,
What are you talking about the Bukusu being unrewarded?

Doesn't Wetangula, also a Bukusu?


If you are talking about wooing tribes, then you should be talking about Luhyas as a whole. The Luhya community is comprised of 16 subtribes. Why are you always talking of the Bukusu who are only confined in Bungoma district? How about Kakamega, Vihiga, Mumias, Butere, Nambale, Busia and Teso? For your information, only 50% of the Bukusu subtribe of the Luhya community supported Kibaki, come 2012, whether you put Kalonzo, Uhuru or Karua, the most you will get from Western Kenya if you still insist on this tribe thing is 2%.


I was replying to Wanyama's earlier post. And if you have your tribal arithmetic right, you can get to the presidency without passing through western. In any case western is an ODM zone and they represent the other side of the tribal equation. Kalenjin, Luhya, Luo vs. Gema (if the Meru were to vote with Raila, as Wanyama says, then ODM would win anyway) + Kamba. The rest of the Kenyas 38 or so tibes make just 20% of the population. They'll swing the vote either way. How much more wooing can you do? Uncle Moody was VP in Kibakis previous administration, before that we had Kijana Wamalwa was Veep. The only thing Raila is offering is a younger dude at the No. 2 Spot, which is probably why Western swung ODMs way.

Speaking of Kibaki, unless he's aiming for the PM's slot (I doubt he's that drunk with power), he's time is done, so I'm sure he'll care less what happens in 2012. But by and large GEMA is likely to be relatively under represented in his side of the cabinet. I personally don't see any Kikuyu running in 2012 having a realistic chance except doing a Kalonzo or Nyachae, thereby handing ODM the victory. Uhuru is still a young man, he can wait. As far as Karua is concerned, if Hillary can't capture the democratic nomination (The thing is not over though and miracles do happen), then I don't see her going that far, besides, and I might be wrong, women are more favoured in the parliamentary system where party royalty plays a big role, than in the presidential system (there are always exceptions to the rule). Thatcher, Bhutto, Gandhi, Merkel. Kalonzo is our best bet for 2012. I've said this before.

I'm not insisting on this tribe thing, it's just the way Kenya votes. That's to us what red and blue states are to the US presidential race. If the ECK was not so inept at keeping data, where are the results for the 1992 Election, for example, 1997 elections are given with codes instead of the names of the constituency, so before you can decipher the codes, it's days gone by, then a more valuable analysis would have been possible.

It's early days yet a lot can happen till 2012.
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re: re: Poor Raila
written by James Macharia , March 12, 2008

Raila for your information has a big following. If 2007 presidential elections results are anything to go by; then you will agree with me that Luos who voted for Raila do not amount to 4M. We Raila supporters do not view him as a Luo but as a hero who sacrificed the comfort of his home and family and continuously fought for the second liberation of Kenya. Kalenjins, Luhyas, 80% of Kisiis, Mijikendas, Tesos etc, etc, would rather rally behind Raila than Martha Karua, Kalonzo or even Uhuru.
As bad as he is to you, he is our hero.



Semantics. I could also say that the people who voted for Kibaki, voted for him because they saw a person who had brought the country back on the road to prosperity. Under who's reign the economy grew significantly, poverty levels were reduced and the farmers got more value for their buck. A reasonable amount of jobs were created and Kenyans created a some wealth etc.

The real reason why each individual voter votes for person A or B is finally between him and the Almighty. You are hardly in a position to speak for each and every person who voted for Raila. That really is the height of arrogance. Chances are everyone had different reasons for doing so. It's not like the 4.3 million people who voted for the cat had some sort of epiphany. If 4.3 M people voted for Raila, 5.5 M did not.

Get your figures right. Your ODM arithmetic is rather skewed. More Kisiis voted for Mwai wa Kibaki than did for Raila A. Odinga. Most of Kibakis votes from Nyanza province were from Gusii land. It's important to note that the Kisii have always voted for Kibaki, even in past elections.

NYANZA RAILA AMOLO 1,280,978
NYANZA KIBAKI MWAI 262,627

source:www.eck.or.ke

The liberty with which ODM supporters take with the truth is irritating at best and highly annoying.

Whoever the PNU side sends to the race will not be guaranteed those Kisii votes though. So I say just like the Luhya say the presidency will come through the lake, ours in 2012 will come through Kamba land.
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My Point
written by Eric , March 12, 2008
My point was; How many people are willing to demostrate now months after election just because the Parliament chose to vote for Murungi, Karua, Watengula or even Mungatana instead of diety RAO? The deal signed did not specifically assign RAO the PM post and he cannot blame anyone if the Honourable men and women don't find him fit.

Kenya is held hostage by this fool. Everytime he doesn't get his way he cries and his fans stone someone, how sad.

FYI, I was an ODM supporter but when they started lying about 65&#xof; GOK revenue going to CDF, the time they started talking of Majimbo and finally when the started killing people in RV because they were not RAO supporters, I quit supporting them.

It is called the ethical principle of the lesser evil. My choice was corruption or death, I choose corruption.

I hope the spirit of the deal is preserved and RAO's ego appeased with the PM office, motor-cade and "security detail". It is a small price to pay for peace and preservation of life.

Kenya is yet another example of the weaknesses of democracy.
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kalonzo
written by Stephen Wainaina , March 12, 2008
It really should be clear that the question here is about 2012. I agree with Wanyama that Kibaki dropped the ball with regard to the 2007 election. Just naming a Vice President from the Western Province and a Chief Minister from the Nandi in July would really have cut into the ODM's lead. It is not for nothing that we make tribal calculations, this is how Kenyans vote. The greatest reason for voting ODM is clearly Kikuyu hatred, Kibaki's every move must be aimed at countering that spirit. Another important factor is the youth vote, again Kibaki must be careful to woo that vote, to stop people seeing his government as an 80 year old one.

There is no such thing as the Luhya or Kalenjin, like in 1992, 1997, 2002 and 2007 these votes will always be split. The Kisii and Kikuyu interests are identical and they must be made central to the PNU agenda. I do not know, like other posters here is Kibaki is up to that task, but the Bukusu and the Kisii voted overwhelmingly for Kibaki, looking at the numbers really shows that Kibaki would have won many more seats there if his party did not adopt the 20 candidates per seat stratagem. The Kamba vote is also Kibaki's for the losing, he does not need to woo Martha Karua or Uhuru Kenyatta, he needs to woo the Akamba, the Kisii and the Bukusu.
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Wainana my friend
written by Eric , March 12, 2008
Kibaki is not running anymore, his endgame was 2007. Now the Kikuyus have to chart the waters without a captain for the first time. Kalonzo is our best bet. KM and MK votes are enough to outdo the RAO western block.
...Kibaki's for the losing, he does not need to woo Martha Karua or Uhuru Kenyatta, he needs to woo the Akamba, the Kisii and the Bukusu.

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written by manta ray , March 12, 2008
It really should be clear that the question here is about 2012. I agree with Wanyama that Kibaki dropped the ball with regard to the 2007 election. Just naming a Vice President from the Western Province and a Chief Minister from the Nandi in July would really have cut into the ODM's lead. It is not for nothing that we make tribal calculations, this is how Kenyans vote. The greatest reason for voting ODM is clearly Kikuyu hatred, Kibaki's every move must be aimed at countering that spirit. Another important factor is the youth vote, again Kibaki must be careful to woo that vote, to stop people seeing his government as an 80 year old one.

There is no such thing as the Luhya or Kalenjin, like in 1992, 1997, 2002 and 2007 these votes will always be split. The Kisii and Kikuyu interests are identical and they must be made central to the PNU agenda. I do not know, like other posters here is Kibaki is up to that task, but the Bukusu and the Kisii voted overwhelmingly for Kibaki, looking at the numbers really shows that Kibaki would have won many more seats there if his party did not adopt the 20 candidates per seat stratagem. The Kamba vote is also Kibaki's for the losing, he does not need to woo Martha Karua or Uhuru Kenyatta, he needs to woo the Akamba, the Kisii and the Bukusu.


I do not believe Kibaki would have gotten anywhere by naming a Luhya VP or Kalenjin Chief Minister in 2007. The fellows would still have been rejected like Mudavadi was in 2002. As you rightly say, the greatest reason for voting ODM was Kikuyu hatred, a hatred borne out of the perception that the Kikuyu had monopolized all opportunities and resources.
These communities had their passions worked up to such an extent that no amount of persuasion would have appeased them, for in the ODM message, what they saw was a very realistic opportunity for revenge and payback, not to mention time to get ready to nosh. They were positively salivating at the prospect!
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written by Njau Ndirangu , March 13, 2008
I think people are ignoring the damage done by this Kikuyu hatred. Hiring of employees and school admission will start being on tribal bases in the private sector. I think it was fine when Kikuyu wenyewe had mistrusts with each other. Now i dont think any Kikuyu would vote for a Kalenjin. That said, i hope no Kikuyu vie for presidency 2012.Kikuyu's should back a leader like Mungatana or somebody else.Just an opinion
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kenya\'s problems
written by dr.phil , March 13, 2008
kenya's problems will not be solved by having a priminister.The problem is that some sections of the populations are still too tribal and do not look for opportunities nor create some,they instead are left blaming the hardworking people.
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Tired of this urgument
written by pndiangui , March 13, 2008
Well Dr.Phil , I am starting to get abit tired of this whole point of 'other communities' that dont work hard. I really think we need to take in the root-cause of others failure to not 'be hard working' as a Kenyan problem, if we are to see ourselves as a Nation. Otherwise we might as well have tribal firedoms where those who 'work hard' live and those who are lazy live. Why not see the problem of the Maasai's failure to embrace farming as a Kenyan problem rather than a Maasai problem? If we do wear these lenses then we can start attacking the problem holistically ; from cultural issues, tax incentives etc etc. Failing to see the reality that Kenya is a congremation of differrent ethnic groups where ethnic ties have over-rode Nationhood is a pure lie that we need address. We need to have a better value-proposition for people to see themselves as belonging to the geographical place that we have called Kenya since its experiment was set rolling in 1900. Going from the last elections we saw the ethnic ties over-ride religion , geographical regions and even families- where there was intermarrigies. Why we would fail to attack this problem from both rational and emotional perspectives is when people like you adopt a fundamental rational approach. The problem is far much complex than a simplistic assertion that 'others are lazy' and some are 'hard working'. What defines the value system of success in a capitalistic society is very different from societies whose cultures hadnt embraced capitalism or even farming by the turn of the 19th century. That doesnt mean that they should be left 'find away' of reaching to those who had adopted those practices ealier if at all we will have a harmonious cohabitation with them. We have seen the Red Indians case and the Aboriginal cases; a sore in the eye of the experiments that these 'Nations' set to try.
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re: My Point
written by a guest , March 13, 2008

Kenya is held hostage by this fool. Everytime he doesn't get his way he cries and his fans stone someone, how sad.


Unfortunately for you, this fool is of paramount value to Kenya and he can not be ignored, he will grace our history books even after he is past tense.
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So?
written by Eric , March 13, 2008
History is littered with men who let their selfish interests be more important than countries and people who they should have been serving. I will not give you any examples for I know that you know them.

Moi is already in our history books, so is J A A Odinga Oginga. RAO's role as a leader who used violence as a political substitute to the legal road will for sure be noted by history.
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re: Tired of this argument
written by Johnny B. Goode , March 13, 2008
Well Dr.Phil , I am starting to get a bit tired of this whole point of 'other communities' that don't work hard.


Noble words indeed. People usually look at Kenya in a top down way. That's where the school of thought that says my tribe is Kenyan emerges from. As idealistic as this assessment is, it highly lacks foundation in reality. It may indeed hold true in times of peace but not when put to the test of fire. When that test came our sense of nationhood crumbled like a sand castle.

See it is more realistic to some extent to see things the other way around way with the strength of links going from strongest to weakest, individual - family (bearing omission for intermixed marriages, they seem to be more built on quick sand like that story in the bible) - Clan/extended family - Tribe - Country.

The thing is we should move to create a nation that is based on reality rather than an illusion. We need to identify, what it is that the country is supposed to do. As far as I'm concerned it gives you a national identity, in that it separates you from the citizen of another country. A country and the government that runs it should ensure security at all levels. On the streets and ensuring the security in owning property. Next the country should provide an enabling environment for people to earn a decent wage and raise their families. The government also has to ensure that the institutions which will provide the people with the skills needed to function in our society are spread equally around.

The tribe on the other hand gives you a cultural identity. Be as it may that that cultural identity is reduced to a shared common language and some custom rites like circumcision and a shared geographical area otherwise known as ancestral lands. The Kenyan national identity is a sum total of the different ethnic identities and not something that exists as an independent entity. To be honest I don't think you could even forge one if you wanted to. The most you can do is share a common geographical area and a history.

If truth be told a Luo and a Kikuyu who went to Nairobi university or Havard might have more in common than a Luo who went to Nairobi university and another Luo who has a small farm in Alego or Siaya. The same goes for the Kikuyu who studied in Harvard and one who owns some small farm in Kiambu.

What I'm trying to say is that through the school system there are avenues of different ethnicities relating to one another and forming a common bond other than ethnicity. Some of us grew up in Nairobi where we formed languages like Sheng and yet when it came to the ballot box we each resulted to our tribal cacoons.

This statistics should offer pause for thought. 90% of all males in Kenya are literate. That means they've gone through our school system. Yet those are the same people who are engaged in acts of rape, burning and looting. The Home, The Church and The School have failed us. The school system we can reform and we should.

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Lets check our facts
written by Anon , March 13, 2008
Eric,

My choice was corruption or death, I choose corruption


I wonder if anyone can point me to a kenyaimagine page that provides some analysis of the so called mega corruption that the Kibaki government is said to have committed. I really think that it is urgent that we go back in history and figure this one out. As far as I can see, the corruption highlighted in no way shape or form comes near to the Moi era corruption and yet we have been convinced by our dumb blond media that it is much worse.

For those who choose to remember anglo leasing was born during the moi era - mid 90s in response to the IMF freeze on Kenya. Most of those who initiated or signed the deals have returned to Parliament through ODM as we speak. The amount of money lost through angloleasing deals in the moi era (mangloleasing) is massive in comparison to the Kibaki (kangloleasing) era where the whole program was shut down as soon as it was found wanting by Kenyans. Top the mangloleasing is with goldenberg and kangloleasing is nowhere near the same league.

My guess is that we were hoodwinked once again. Why is it that all those who contributed to the massive goldenberg and angloleasing losses are back in power? Why did RAO let so many corrupt people back into Government through ODM? Why is it that the US and UK are choosing to say anything about these well known facts? What are we going to do about it?

Time to start asking some questions folks.
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written by manta ray , March 13, 2008
The blame lies squarely with Kibaki for his indecisiveness and cowardice. If he had bitten the bullet and demonstrated real leadership, instilled respect for his office and fear of his power, none of Raila's cronies would have dared run for political office, tainted as they were, and many should have been in jail by now.

He squandered the opportunity early in his reign by listening to political nincompoops around him instead of listening to the likes of Paul Muite who knew Raila and how to handle him.

It is therefore time for younger GEMA citizens, and not including those amongst the current MPs, 95% of whom are incompetent political buffoons anyway, to seize the initiative and reach out to those from other communities, Kamba, Luhya, Luo, Maasai etc with whom they share common interests and patriotism, to forge a new political movement whose mantra should be love of country first before tribe, and to cut all ties and bonds with the past and start anew.

Ted Turner once said: "Lead, follow or get out of the way." It is time to give an eviction notice to the current class across the board from PNU,ODM,ODM-K et al.
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written by Stephen Wanyama , March 14, 2008
Manta, I understand, there is plenty of reason to be angry, very angry even but I cannot see how we can beat the ODM in any way but on through politics. Jail, bans, etc are impossible given their hold on their supporters. We can be sure for example that Balala's call for Lesotho greatly angered people in the government, but like a parent dealing with unruly children, persuasion is sometimes more useful than threats or punishment. Like I have said elsewhere, people with the badge ODM do not care about this country. They will burn you with your shop, their employment, their factory, kill their very own economic prospects just to make a political point; a lot like a suicide bomber who blows himself apart in a market where his own mother could be shopping, and for whose action his family suffers more than anyone else. Hawa watu kweli hawajali Manta, you cannot deal with them through reason or the law, at least not yet.
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written by Kim G , March 14, 2008

It is therefore time for younger GEMA citizens, and not including those amongst the current MPs, 95% of whom are incompetent political buffoons anyway, to seize the initiative and reach out to those from other communities, Kamba, Luhya, Luo, Maasai etc with whom they share common interests and patriotism, to forge a new political movement whose mantra should be love of country first before tribe, and to cut all ties and bonds with the past and start anew.


Well said! All these people are the same: ODM, PNU, KANU, DP, Safina, NARC, etc. Each group has a tendency of fooling Kenyans that they are the saviours. All of these people have been in government since colonialism. Some of them (such as Musalia, Raila and Nyagah) picked up from where their late fathers left off. What we are seeing is nothing more than an elitist power struggle. The people are nowhere in their scheme of things except as guinea pigs and pawns.

The idea of a nationalist revival movement is long overdue. It shouldn't just be limited to GEMA or any other tribal grouping. There are lots of Kenyans both young and old who are sick of the rapacious elite that govern Kenya. Indeed, I can even go as far as saying that Kenya needs a revolution. As long as these dunderheads we call politicians continue calling the shots, we can never hope to get anywhere as a country.
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written by James Macharia , March 14, 2008
Don't place so much stock in a dude or dudette getting you to the promised land. Not even your own self. We've got to change the system. A corrupt system will always produce corrupt leaders. Look at the parliamentary elections. Look at how the numbers shot up once MPs started taking home 800k a month. Do you seriously believe all those people our best interests at heart.Most probably just wanted to cash in on the cash cow that parliament has become.

That ridiculous salary hike has tarnished the profession. This cats should not be paid more than 250k max. That would free up Kshs 115 Million/ month that can be put to better use. In fact the brightest opportunist MP can table that bill and get some free PR out of it as well as improving his national credentials.

Good news is though that the declared goal. of the current parliament is to establish new rules by which the game is played. Lets see how they'll do. In fact the more I follow discussions here the more I'm convinced that what needs more reforming is not the national structure as such but the local govt. Seriously, what are this guys doing with all that money they've been getting? If this part of govt. worked like a well oiled machine, then we could solve most of the problems we have.
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written by manta ray , March 14, 2008
Stephen, i was just expressing what Kibaki should have done, not what he should do now. It is too late and he(and us) will have to live with the consequences. There has to be a decisive break with the past and the political current crowd, and those of ODM who believe in the new mission should be allowed to join in. I am sure there are many from ODM supporting communities who are true patriots. We should not give up on them.

James, but that is precisely what i am talking about, and the reason why we should break all forms of political expression within the confines of the current system.
The way to do that is to formulate and present a completely new and radical agenda that is expressly directed towards the vast majority of marginalised youth, one that espouses uprightness, principle and patriotism, and ignoring and rejecting completely politics as usual.

Johnstone Muthama has introduced a bill to reduce MPs salaries by half but it will get nowhere, that is for sure.
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Johnny B. Goode !!
written by ezz , March 14, 2008
The Kenyan national identity is a sum total of the different ethnic identities and not something that exists as an independent entity. To be honest I don't think you could even forge one if you wanted to.

Tanzania ?
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written by a guest , March 17, 2008
History is littered with men who let their selfish interests be more important than countries and people who they should have been serving. I will not give you any examples for I know that you know them.

Moi is already in our history books, so is J A A Odinga Oginga. RAO's role as a leader who used violence as a political substitute to the legal road will for sure be noted by history.


Indeed, Kenyans are not stupid, trying to blame RAO for the spontaneous demonstration of anger across the country will not wash. The HRW has clearly stated that most deaths were a result of gunshots,most probably occassioned by police bullets. Unlike the angry mobs, the police operated under clear instructions from an embattled dictator to kill protesters in Western Kenya while go soft on Mungiki murderers in Naivasha and Nakuru.

If anything, the real violence has been caused by Kibaki trying to steal elections in broad daylight. Kibaki supporters can keep deluding themselves, but history will remain unchanged.

The whole world minus Museveni cannot have been fooled by RAO. No wonder Alpha Oumar Konare forced the Kenyan agenda on the AU summit.
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