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Written by Annette Keino   
Wednesday, 26 September 2007

It was with mild surprise that I read that the Iranian President had declared at New York's Columbia University, with what seemed to be genuine incredulity, that there were no gays in Iran.

The Iranian president was responding to questions on Iran's treatment of homosexuals and in particular the barbaric manner of judicial killings of two youths found guilty of homosexuality or of molesting a boy, depending on what sources you believe, and to the outright denial of people who are placed under his government's care.

First off, I would like to qualify my article by stating that I do not belong to that party of people that would like to see Iran attacked, and I am actually quite concerned at the increasing levels of hatred towards Muslims in Western society; two underlying causes informing the racket following Mohamoud Ahmadinejad' comments. Still, it is outrageous that any head of state should give himself to over to such bigoted posturing.

showing denial the door

Let us ignore all of that, and the Columbia Dean's rude introduction, or his ignorance in calling Ahmadinejad a dictator. Let us ignore the fact that there are many countries around the world that have similarly beastly attitudes towards gay people, or that there are many that exhibit an ugly and terrifying bigotry behind a veneer of acceptance. Let us ask ourselves where our country stands, and where we as individuals stand on this human rights issue. Do you acknowledge the existence of homosexuals? Would you accord them rights equivalent to what you would any other Kenyan? Would you shun them, ostracise them, disown them or give them the cold shoulder merely because that was what society decreed?

I do not believe in moral relativism, especially not for such fundamental, inalienable liberties as the right to freedom of association or sexual expression. Our fledgling nation prides itself in its mostly Christian tradition, ascribing great importance to such values as charity and fellow-feeling. Such virtues however, find themselves obliterated when faced with the reality that perhaps 5% of all Kenyans, like any other society around the world, are homosexual. Should a Kenyan be confronted with the subject or evidence of homosexuality in his country, he will meet it full on with apoplectic anger, decry it as an imported Western vice, condemn it as sinful deviance, threaten with ostracism or like the Iranian President, meet it with a steady denial, 'there are no gays in this village.' Indeed so resolute is this rejection, it is worse than anything that would be meted out against even a murderer.

In mitigation, it must be said that these attitudes are not our own. However, corralled as they are by an attitude that dictates that homosexuality is profoundly alien to Africa and among the basest of sins, they have been accepted by our patriarchal and religious society as part of our identity. Any resistance to homophobia is therefore by definition perfidious to society and inimical to our relationship with our deity.

But this attitude is not just limited to homosexuality. A mindset has evolved from the conflation of the oppressive attitudes of Victorian England and the rigidity of our traditional societies that supports seeing sexual relations as shameful and unfit for public discourse. It involves denying the reality of human sexual actions and asserting a non-existent traditional heterosexual ideal as the only ‘natural' sexual life.

justice, equal rights for all

The trouble is that our hatred blinds us to the onset of the consequences of this attitude. Cultures that imprison themselves in this way end up warping human desires, which will most definitely not go away but will persist even as their practitioners hypocritically uphold the oppression of dissenters. This is why in such societies, incidences of the abuse of children and spouses are widespread, as are prostitution and rape. In such states, patriarchal structures persist with women assigned the traditional suppressed heterosexual role as wives and mothers, even as their men are free to engage in sexual promiscuity before marriage but demand only virgins for wives.

Under such rules, prostitution, porn and illicit relationships thrive but are kept covered up, even as the odd victim is made an example of in the most brutal fashion. Worst of all though, this refusal to be open, this sense of shame and hypocrisy in relation to sex also make discovering and dealing with abuse so much harder, and the pain and consequences are handed down generation after generation as society pretends not to see.

I am not suggesting for a minute that homosexuals have rights superior to those of other members of our society who are routinely oppressed, whether they are women, the disabled, children or minority communities. But only that we take a step back and reconsider our attitudes to those we do not understand or who have opinions or ways of life different than ours.


Annette Keino
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written by Tim Norwood , September 26, 2007
Annette,
As repugnant as the Iranian regime is, may I say something for cultural relativism. Firstly, the BBC or any video of the Columbia Lecture will show that he said, 'There are no gays in Iran, the way there are in your country.'
Now, my experience of homosexuals in Kenya's hinterland describes a similar situation. They exist, to deny it would be to deny a fact, but they are not 'out', they marry, have children and grow old in heterosexual unions, and any homosexual encounters they may have are few and far between. If homosexual defines more than just orientation, and includes lifestyle; then they are indeed a very different kind of gay than is prevalent in the West, or at the Coast.
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P.S. Here's to a society that is freer about sex. I know this girl who was raped but cannot go to the police or to her parents because they will say that she was 'looking for it'. This is especially the case with regard to acquaintance rape.
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written by Tim Osano , September 26, 2007
Agreed Norwood. I have heard myself of people in Kenya who participate in homosexual intercourse as a matter of nature, but all those who are actually homosexual by lifestyle seem to me to have made a choice to be so, influenced in part by the media and global culture.

This is not to say that there are no gays, but they are a far different phenomemon than exists in New York, or San Franscisco.
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written by aeichener , September 26, 2007
Agreed, Tim Norwood.
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written by Stephen Wainaina , September 27, 2007
Do you acknowledge the existence of homosexuals? Would you accord them rights equivalent to what you would any other Kenyan? Would you shun them, ostracise them, disown them or give them the cold shoulder merely because that was what society decreed?

As the blindfolds of superstition and preudice fall of our eyes, more and more of us will be drawn towards the acceptance of others, even to appreciate these differences. I am studying in the UK, and the number of African students that come out when they are here is simply astounding!

A number of extremely bigotted statements were to be found here yesterday,that answered your questions as regards the majority of Kenyans. This must be the first Kenyan media organisation of any kind to confront this issue directly, and it is important that we discuss it because as you have said, repression simply leads to harmful effects for the wider society.

Now with regard to the coast and the Middle East, I have read from writers, among them gays who will tell you that they find some of these tags restrictive. In these cultures, many men had occasional homosexual encounters and then returned to their normal lives as fathers and husbands of women. To describe them as gay, on account of their activities of a few minutes, would not fully take in the whole scope of their identities. I believe there would be similar situations elsewhere in Kenya, although the reactions Annette describes so well certanly militate against this.
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written by emmo opoti , September 28, 2007
Amazingly, the bigotry is not restricted to the uncultured villages. It spreads right up to the top of society, with the primates and shockingly now, with the Daily Nation which today publishes a hate-piece by a commissioner of the Electoral Commission.
We had an interesting discussion on homosexuality in Kenya earlier this year,see here, so much as we may choose to look the other way and pretend we do not know, it is a part of Kenyan society. In that discussion one respondent cited a Nairobi university study that found that close to 10% of all Nairobians are homosexual.
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written by aeichener , October 08, 2007
Ah.
Presumably another self-hating queer. Poor chap.

Oh, by the way: what about the male-to-female, female-to-male and female-to-female anal practicioners?

Alexander
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written by Blake , October 08, 2007
A comment from the blog of:

I just hate the way homo apologists and sympathisers world over love to bandy the word "bigotry" whenever they are confronted by hostile reactions to the homosexual lifestyle. You'll have to admit that since time immemorial, homosexuality has always been considered repugnant in African societies. The concept of a man taking another man as his "wife" or sex partner was simply abhorrent. It was an unnatural deviation wherever it may have occured.

The overwhelming majority of Africans still hold to this life philosophy which the West cannot seem to understand. And what do the gay apologists and westernised Africans say," that it is a case of Judeo-Christian teachings creating homophobia which never was." What nonsense!
The homo supporters dont just get it. You can't normalise the profoundly abnormal. Just look at our biological make-up for goodness sake! And when normal people like me voice our disagreement with this deviant sexual orientation...we are branded "bigots" and "ignorant." What a joke!
This is definitely intolerance taken to a really incredible level. I represent an overwhelming majority of Kenyans who will never accept this astonishing idea of men screwing each other in the ass. Please note that I do not deny its existence in Kenya....just like we have all other deviants in society such as rapists, paedophiles and murderers.
The bitter truth is that homosexuals are very sick and highly disturbed individuals. At best, they need psychological help, not the shameful celebration am reading here from some fellow Kenyans. For the unapologetic male to male anal sex practitioners, the law should be applied without mercy - 5 to 14 years in jail. Enough said.
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written by Stephen Wainaina , October 08, 2007
Kenyans are of course much more civilised than their Ugandan counterparts on the matter of homosexuals. Mr, Blake above is at best an ignoramus. In Uganda they are much more vicious about it. The Church, the state all complicit. Their president recently instructed the public,
"I have told the Criminal Investigations Department to look for homosexuals, lock them up and charge them."

Later, a broadcasting station in the very same country was fined for hosting an interview with gays. In the meantime, the Muslims, the Christians and others (whose religions all teach that the other will end up in hell), unite to defend their bearded God and declare homosexuality an abomination. 21st Century ecumenism, sex is evil.

Like Alexander, I believe this Blake has something to hide. Is Blake a Ugandan? Does he perchance believe himself to be on the pages of the Red Pepper?
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written by emmo opoti , October 08, 2007
Never mind him, probably a troll. The very use of the name Blake suggests to me that he is indeed an ignoramus. One can only invoke the name of William Blake in supporting the acceptance of homosexuals, not in their rejection.

A bit of Wikipedia may go a long way.
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written by Blake , October 11, 2007
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written by Amir Ibrahim , October 11, 2007
I think the only scriptures in the Christian Bible that are explicit about homosexuality can very easily be explained. It may be a difficult task but I will try. The Hebrew Scriptures have at least two instances where the practice that is spoken against is male harlotry, an abomination to the Hebrews particularly because it was practised by the surrounding pagan tribes in their worship rituals. There were similar sanctions against food offered up to idols, for example.
The second such example is that of rape, like in the story of Lot. Again clearly this is violence, and violation, emasculation and not consensual loving sex.

Even the Pauline account at Romans 1:26- describes what I see as a disconnect from the modern understanding of a homosexual. Paul seems here to be speaking of an account of sexual licence of such immense latitude that heterosexual men, are given over to seeking something extra from homosexual relationships. This is hardly in tandem with our modern understanding of homosexuals, among who are many people who have struggled through lives of great denial but have still found themselves unable to realign their minds and bodies against what is their very nature.
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Hardly civilized
written by aeichener , October 14, 2007
It is characteristic that even a proclaimed "critical" (haha) paper such as the "Standard" will print a long anti-gay hate article. Characteristic not for the Standard, as it may be or not, but for the nadir of public and publicized discourse in the country.

It is quite telling that the Standard editors in their Sunday paper found it befitting to undersign a Kenyan history article by one "Ian Parker" with the distancing statement that the opinions here expressed be those of the author, but not of the Standard - whereas no such disclaimer accompanies the aforementioned hate piece of one "Mark Mzungu".

Tolerance and respect for others are the hallmarks of civilization. And if we use this standard to measure Kenyans, we once again see Kipling's famous phrase confirmed: "half savage and half child". In Kipling's writing and his time, that was meant as a positive and encouraging assessment; today, it cannot sound other than bitter.
In the time of our great-grandfathers and great-grandmothers, very few (native) Kenyan were educated, but many were civilized. Today in the fruit salad (banana republic or orange commonwealth) that calls itself Kenya, we see far too many "educated" people (it's a national obsession) - - but very few civilized ones. Alas.

Alexander
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written by Blake , October 15, 2007
My rebuttal has been deleted above for obvious reasons. I now clearly see where this web site stands on the question of homosexuality in Kenya.

Doesn't matter anyway because this disgusting lifestyle that you the web site owners are trying to promote in Kenya will never be accepted.

I wish you all the best of luck in your abhorrent mission.
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written by James Macharia , November 14, 2007
Ignore Blake's comments. I have in many attempts tried to explain to him that there is no way a Kenyan man living in todays Kenya will choose to be gay. This is because of the societal prejudice against us. Further, because it is such a misunderstood subject, the likely hood of gay bashing is quite high. We have however lived here( some like me for 38 years) and struggled to keep our sexuality from friends and families. Why would one choose a lifestyle like this?

He at best depends on insults, epithets and all sort of derogatory words to get his point across and each time one tries to get his point across, he insults him/her.

Even if he ever had a point, it got lost amongst his negative tirade.

This however should not dissuade good folks from discussing this subject. Your brothers, cousins, uncles etc are currently forced to hide who they really are because of bigotry
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