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Written by Wambui Mwangi   
Saturday, 02 February 2008

It is clear that the time has come for us to stop taking Kenya for granted, that instead we must make a passionate and compelling case for it.

We now have to argue ourselves and our compatriots into the idea of Kenya; to persuade ourselves of, and to think about, more deeply and with more clarity than we have ever had to summon before, the merits of this nebulous entity that we call home. 

We now have to fight for it; the honeymoon, such as it was, is over.  Before we do that, we had better know what we are talking about.  It is important to remember that no identity is fixed, no way of being oneself immortalised in stone.  Every morning, when we wake up, each one of us has to remember who we are, and act accordingly, gathering our recollection of self from memories, and dreams, from half-forgotten quarrels and recollections of things overheard, from our yearnings and loves and dislikes. We piece these little shards of reflected, refracted and remembered things together again every morning, to become ourselves.

In my professional life, I am most often perceived as a Black Woman.  This is the mantle I don, whether I will it or not, when I walk out of my house and onto a Toronto street.  The fault lines that I hide are comprehensively covered up by my skin: the myriad ways in which I pretend that it is not true, that Africans have an abiding contempt for African-Americans (I once had a Nigerian taxi-driver  in Washington D.C. tell me, talking of slavery and the Diaspora, that we "sold the ones we didn't want-it was good for our societies,"); that it is not true that Africans think we have a lock on ‘African-ness"-that we think we are the original Black, we are Mandingo and Shaka Zulu and Othello  and we are the soul-spring of humanity (I mean the other Lucy), and you had better cherish our rhythms and traditions or we will simply ridicule you back into our version of ‘authenticity'; that  it is not true that it I find it easier to talk to a white American academic than to a compatriot who cannot read, because Rousseau is important to me and so is Karsh and Van Gogh; it is not true that I and my interestingly-accomplished friends from the Kenyan, and larger African Diaspora secretly think that we are the favoured tenth of which W.E.B. Dubois spoke; and that it is completely untrue  that it works for us to come from dysfunctional  and poverty-ridden societies, because we are the obvious choice to (for a profit) interpret and explain and expound on our vexingly incomprehensible and violent African people to a morbidly interested West; it is merely by chance that my friends in Toronto are all white, and very smart, and very well-known. Or that they are all well-paid and well-behaved Oreo-cookie/coconut-type people like me (this epithet doesn't work so well here as I like real coconuts exceedingly well, and even I think Oreos with milk are outstanding.) None of us can be called poor, although we are virtuously not wealthy, either.

 I attempt to inhabit these circles of power in my life as if I am just a passerby, an innocent bystander, and most times, I even believe it myself.   I didn't set up these structures of power, and, although they seem to work for me, I have by no means endorsed them. The closed doors of racism that squeezed open for one brief instant to admit me were not of my crafting, I remark to myself often.  It is possible to pretend, if you are me. 

 I have to pretend all that, and I do it extraordinarily well: I perform ‘Professor Mwangi' with skill- even if I say so myself-- all the while knowing that I am massaging my own identity, that I am crafting the most plausible "cosmopolitan African" that I can, to maintain myself in my enviable position in the western economy and global marketplace.  I am an intriguingly-inflected academic (because I am a woman, and an African, and I don't comb my hair, and I tell my colleagues off for their racist behaviour all the time) who wields post-colonial theory with some verve, and to good effect.  I am able to deploy French post-structuralists  and German rationalists and Danish agonists because I have worked hard to acquire these abilities, and I deserve my nothing-to-do-with-being-Kikuyu reward right here on this rapidly-warming earth.  

I have Canadian-speaking dollars to spend in Nairobi. 

 
 

For many years, it did not occur to me that it might be important that I was from Central Province, that perhaps it was not an accident that I did so well in school; that my fortune in having, for a mother, one of the most extraordinary human-beings it has been my privilege to know was pre-arranged by historical injustice-none of this seemed important to me, because it did not seem to me that I had been given any Kikuyu-flavoured breaks or Kikuyu-tinged advantages.  I firmly believed that I had fought for all of it: that it was mine on merit-the whole shebang. 

It was definitely me, by my lonesome, swotting for those O-levels; I was absolutely all by myself when I gave that job-talk at another ritzy U.S. university; I remember eating beans for months at a time because I was so broke when I was a student in Montreal that I had to make a choice between food and electricity (githeri is still githeri even when you buy it in American supermarkets); nobody has subsidised my thoughts when I am able to hold my own in a room full of Ivy-League academics; I was factually and verifiably solitary when I was struggling to write that PhD dissertation-I did it all by myself, in a context in which nobody even wanted to try to spell "Agikuyu."   I merely happen to be from where I am from, and I just merely happen to own those damning syllables of my name:  I am an accidental Mkikuyu.

I weave this sort of story for myself-I tell myself these lullabies.  And so do all other even partially successful Kikuyus, of which there are many around the world (which is something to celebrate another day), who will not admit that to be a Kikuyu is to inhabit a loaded and favoured category.

Instead, I tell myself that I am just an innately competitive person-a personal trait I deplore, when I remember to-and that I just happen to have been extraordinarily lucky at the sorts of endeavours and projects to which I set my mind, because they tend to work. It is mere good fortune that I have all sorts of connections and contacts: I am a lucky person.  I just happen to be from the Central Province,  ahem!, actually from Nairobi,--my name just happens to be Wambui Mwangi, and it is sheer and flabbergastingly  a remarkable surprise that I have recently found out that my father once worked at the highest levels of Kenyan government.   It is all a coincidence-I had nothing to do with it.  Obviously not.  How could I have? I was not a conspirator in my birth; I did not collude with others here not named to add one more oppressive Kikuyu to the Kenyan mix.  I just woke up one day, and found myself here, in this skin and with this name of mine. I had one of those mothers who tell their daughters to shut up and just get on with it, get up and go fight life for your place in it, so I did.  Or I thought I had.

As we begin to gird our loins for the long haul, because we Kenyans have unleashed a force we cannot control, and we are in dire peril, let us take a minute to examine ourselves.   We are in danger here, but we also have an unprecedented historical opportunity to recreate ourselves in better ways.   As we take stock and look around us, and figure out new pathways to each other and to ourselves--in between dodging Mungiki, and the Nairobi Taliban, and figuring out how to navigate our towns and cities and farms anew, and how to craft new forms of speaking to one another--  one of the most important factors in the equation of our future is going to be the capacity of we Kikuyus to question ourselves.   I would suggest that it behoves others of different ethnic persuasions to do this too, but in these Kikuyu-battering times, I hesitate to offer this idea-I can feel my mind stuttering over this thought.  We are not in a position to demand this of other people, we Kikuyu; we have some logs to remove from our very own eye.

I say "we" with a sense of astonishment: this is not an identity I have ever cultivated.  This is not an identity that puts more ugali in my sufuria in the normal course of my life, and I own it now only because other people all around me are dying from it, as if it is an incurable disease spread through fire and the sharp edge of a panga.  It is very, very contagious, but I have my ways around it-I have exit and escape options.   I'm sure the Canadians will give me shelter if I beg for it, if I abandon my friends and family, as I might have to, one day.   I could even get away with claiming to be an Ethiopian-I would be safe as long as nobody asks me for an I.D-I have had this thought more than once in the last week alone.

 Still, I cannot deny that I am a Kikuyu when that is the reason that many people are dead and homeless; I cannot disavow this violently-granted place in our society when friends from other ethnic groups are finally speaking their truths.  My Luo and Kalenjin and Maasai friends are angry about many things I did not know about, and they are angrier still at having to explain them to me now, that it has taken all this for me to even ask the question.  It is an emotion I can understand-I feel that way about white people a lot of the time.  Oh yes, I have had these very thoughts myself:  about oblivious white liberals, who want to hold hands and just get along.  I have said those very sentences myself-the ones that begin with an indignant "it is not my job to educate you...."

I know well that mixture of contempt and exasperation, that fury-laden lament. How strange, to recognise those echoes, to come up against a mirror like that.  We live and learn.

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We live, and learn, and grieve some more, and face each new day in ‘fear and sickness and trembling unto death.'  I do not know how much more of this I can bear: how many deaths, how many new tragedies, how many new instances of the unimaginable moral bankruptcy of our leaders I can force myself to accept as part of Kenya, as part of myself.  I simply do not know if I can stand another day of this unfolding nightmare.

Yet, through all this, I am aware that there is something here to be fought for, I am aware of a clarion call to stand up and be counted.  There is, in Kenya, something struggling for a space, something groping for a chance to speak, like a phoenix waiting to be born from amongst the ashes of our homes, like wildflowers on the graves of our dead.   So I will throw my lot in with those people fighting for justice and reconciliation, wherever I find them and whatever their names and places of ancestral attachment   I will raise my voice in defence of the truth, and I will offer what I can in the cause of a better tomorrow.  I will speak with all the honesty and power I can muster, despite my innate cowardice, which I also discover afresh each day.  

Each day my fear is waiting for me to put it on and walk into Nairobi dressed in it.

I will wish, with all the power of my longing, with my fiercest desiring, with all my dreaming and my dreadlocked stubbornness and will, for our voices to be heard.  I am an accidental Mkikuyu, but I will fight for the Kenyan corner with everything I have.  I am happy, for whole seconds at a time on any given day, to be among a throng of fellow-minded Kenyans, who have decided that we will not give up.  We fight, every day here in Kenya, for a remembrance of our better selves, and for a new way towards the Kenyan mosaic. 

Join this fight, and let us build Kenya anew.  Let us move forward, with principle and passion.  Let us translate our horror into healing, our terror into a new truth; let us show what we mean by The Kenya We Want.  I am banking on us, with all the credit I have accumulated in my soul.  Let us make ourselves heard: speak with all of your voices and strength.  Say: we are GenerationKenya.


Wambui Mwangi
About the author:
Professor Wambui Mwangi was born in Nairobi and currently lives in Nairobi and Toronto. She attended Loreto Convent Valley Road and St. Mary’s School, Nairobi before graduating from Smith College, Northampton, Massachusetts.
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Join which fight
written by Serai , February 03, 2008
What does Wambui Mwangi want Kikuyu to apologise for? The fact one left university with a 2.2.1 degree, slept on the cold floor of a one room shack in Kagemi, Uthiru, Kawangware etc without out a job, food or hope. Is it because one hawks Mitumbas, cycles a boda boda, earns meagre wage picking tea or makes long exhausting journeys to Kampala, Bostwana, India etc At this rate the Germans may as well demand that the Jews make a salute of gratitude for not exterminating them.

Why does one apologise for working themselves to a point of near collapsed from exhaustion. Privileged kikuyu are in the minority. If they kikuyu have any apologising to do, take it to GOD, make penance with God and besiege him for wisdom and guidance, to show the right ways from the wrong ways, but make NO apology to some tribe your life's already got enough tribulation, difficulty and exhaustion. Pray to God and Soldier on.
Ezekiel 18:20 - The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.

Serai, kindly repost your comment taking care not to use apostrophes, dashes and quotation marks. We apologise for the inconvenience. Eds
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written by Tim Norwood , February 03, 2008
Wambui, I am sure you mean well, but I am very tempted to ask that you do not let it hit you on the way out. The legend is told of one Hirsi Ali/Magan who could also pass for an Ethiopian, and she also felt compelled by the iniquity of a few of her people to join up in waging a crusade against her entire community. There's much employment to be gained on such basis, the AEI took Hirsi Ali. I hear the very progressive IRI support the ODM leader, perhaps they may have an opening.

Excuse me for that. I believe I had to get it out of the system. There are very solid reasons to be opposed to Raila Odinga, very solid. It is perhaps understandable that you would be made to feel guilty for what privilege you have but, but, but, a little research would not do much harm. Now, if you would kindly list these injustices committed against the 41 by the Kikuyu.
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dear, dear
written by Stephen Wanyama , February 03, 2008
Seen another way this is really quite patronising. I am I suppose also a child of privilege, perhaps one who worked much less harder than you did, and suffered less lack. I am not Kikuyu however, never have been either.

I feel a gnawing sense of guilt about my advantage, and an abiding sense of duty, but I feel that there are and ought to be limits to what we take on our shoulders. You have privilege, you perhaps have enjoyed some benefit against the good of the many, millions of Kikuyus living in desperate want have not. The majority of those being expelled from the Rift Valley are among the Kenyans who have suffered most since this country had its independence, well before that even. So please feel guilty on your personal account, that is a virtue we in the middle class must retain, and use it to drive us to service. But to iterate, it is not your place to apologise for being Kikuyu, I suggest you do not even know what that this means.
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Misunderstood
written by Tk , February 03, 2008
I think all Wambui is talking about longer term issues for the country rather than just a response to the crisis. Firstly, she examines whether she has wrongly assumed that her tribal identity is irrelevant. She then moves on to take on the initiative for self-examination based on this identity. And finally to try and bridge any gaps between this Kikuyu identity with the rest of the country. I guess some honest introspection is one way of reconciliation but as the rest have noted we have to be careful that such a process does not become an exercise in appeasment which inadvertently justifys the actions of those who have committed mass murder in the name of having been wronged by the Kikuyus etc
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Odious rubbish
written by Daniel.Waweru , February 03, 2008
Then when economic majimbo was put forward they twisted into saying they would be evicted from Rv and everywhere else.Now funny thing is that it was one big lie that has become reality.As they say don't rock the boat.


Previous bouts of ethnic cleansing in the Rift have been preceded by majimbo talk of varying degrees of floweriness. Non-Kalenjins in the Rift Valley were quite sensible to object to majimbo talk.

If you're going to continue posting this sort of vile stupidity, you might like to get your facts right.
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written by mkosakabila , February 03, 2008
Wambui. I applaud your accomplishments and admire your humility and boldness. You are right, we are at a critical juncture and as you put it have an opportunity to recreate ourselves in better ways. We can escape the lock in that at one point had seemed so inevitable, and move onto another even more productive, inclusive path. And yes, questioning our values, beliefs, practices and even our fears (real or imagined) of the other is necessary. We as Kenyans do need to reevaluate our mental models. In prior posts PNdiangui had initiated some interesting debate on possible, practicable ways of getting such a dialogue started and sustained.
Indeed,a valuable contribution is yours!
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re: errrm
written by Hussein Musa , February 03, 2008
Wambui, I am sure you mean well, but I am very tempted to ask that you do not let it hit you on the way out. The legend is told of one Hirsi Ali/Magan who could also pass for an Ethiopian, and she also felt compelled by the iniquity of a few of her people to join up in waging a crusade against her entire community. There's much employment to be gained on such basis, the AEI took Hirsi Ali. I hear the very progressive IRI support the ODM leader, perhaps they may have an opening.

Excuse me for that. I believe I had to get it out of the system. There are very solid reasons to be opposed to Raila Odinga, very solid. It is perhaps understandable that you would be made to feel guilty for what privilege you have but, but, but, a little research would not do much harm. Now, if you would kindly list these injustices committed against the 41 by the Kikuyu.


These is crazy.let me get these right anyone pointing out kibaki rigged election is raila supporter.Also these 41 against 1 stories who said it when,where evidence please.I know one thing and it has nothing to do with kikuyus. the elite few wanted the 11 million kikuyu votes in block.So they devised a plan to attack Raila personaly etc foreskins and so much crap.It was like whenever he spoke it twisted to scare kikuyus into voting kibaki there is nothing wrong with that at all it there right anyway.Then when economic majimbo was put forward they twisted into saying they would be evicted from Rv and everywhere else.Now funny thing is that it was one big lie that has become reality.As they say don't rock the boat.
Another crazy concept put forward is that both side rigged and that kibaki was more clever give me break pink panther could have done a better job rigging election than these lot.Now the funny things is despite all killings some people want to sweep everything under the carpet.Well kenya has changed forever,forever and it not returning to it old way.Everyone would live in there areas full stop.
Let kibaki be president next five years of state house, while the state collapse and slowly fall into civil war.I would like to see genuine compromise from both or say goodbye to kenya.
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generation kenya
written by jayawardene , February 03, 2008
Generation Kenya: what a wonderful concept.

Ms Wambui has done a great job in opening up the debate. The time is now for this critical self examination to take place.

The comments suggesting that Ms Wambui or anyone else owes no apologies for being of this or that ethnicity are unfortunate. Let us not lead one another up a blind alley. We had that argument with Britain's sorry for slavery saga.
I also believe that as kenyans we should each own up to our shortcomings and learn to live together respecting and accommodating our diversity. Let us stop playing the 'victim' card and step up to the crease with practical measures. It has aleady been suggested elsewhere that we need to scrap the current id cards with their emphasis on tribe/etnicity.


There is so much more that we need to learn about the condition that we are suffering from. This may need a truth and reconciliation commission. There is too much cynicism in the comments that follow Ms Wambui's piece and we are still bringing in personalities like Kibaki and Raila who are both clearly anti-kenya.

Everyday we hear stories of great hope, courage and sacrifice. People on all sides in this conflict are sheltering members of other tribes at great risk of danger to themselves. The selfless acts of many doctors, nurses and other health workers, the untiring efforts of many in the police service. I suggest that it is here, amongst those in greatest need in the refugee camps across our country and also in the smouldering ruins of mindless excesses that we will find the means to vanquish the tribal demons. forever.
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written by Nyabs , February 03, 2008
Maybe, just maybe, the Kikuyu may have something to apologize for, although search as I may, I cannot see what. Granted, the land resettlemen after independence could have been done better, but other than that, one cannot with a clear conscience attribute the economic success of the kikuyu people with favours given to them during the Kenyatta regime.

Moi all but isolated the community in his 24 years rule, but they continued to thrive.

The Kibaki government, contrary to popular belief, has not gone flat out to give state largessee to members of the Kikuyu community. Granted, there is more Kikuyu presentation at senior government level, but one cannot argue that these appointments have translated to Kikuyu economic dominance.

Let us take another community that is being kicked out of the Rift Valley and which has done relatively well for itself, the Kisii community. The community has never had a president, was never a beneficiary of land resettlements, does not hold plum government jobs. What apologies does this community have to offer for their success?

Are we as a nation criminalizing initiative, risk taking and ability to move out of our comfort zones and seize opportunities where they occur?

Bottomline, the ethnic cleansing we have seen in Kisumu and Rift Valley is criminal and the communities targetted have no apologies to make to anybody for succeeding against the odds.
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The Kisii community
written by Wuod Aketch , February 03, 2008

Let us take another community that is being kicked out of the Rift Valley and which has done relatively well for itself, the Kisii community. The community has never had a president, was never a beneficiary of land resettlements, does not hold plum government jobs. What apologies does this community have to offer for their success?


The politician Nyachae from Kisii did his people a disservice. The Kisii never had a president but had the old man Nyachae. The most remarkable injustices that meets one's eye in the rift valley is the state of the the roads leading to and from Kericho.
The ones from Kericho to Kisii were perfectly tarmacked. From Kericho to Nakuru or Kericho to Kisumu, the roads are just plowed fields. Nyachae was the minister in charge until the fatal elections. Whether he got orders from the state house to punish the Kalenjin is a point yet to be scrutinized.
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re: The Kisii community
written by wanjik , February 03, 2008

Let us take another community that is being kicked out of the Rift Valley and which has done relatively well for itself, the Kisii community. The community has never had a president, was never a beneficiary of land resettlements, does not hold plum government jobs. What apologies does this community have to offer for their success?


The politician Nyachae from Kisii did his people a disservice. The Kisii never had a president but had the old man Nyachae. The most remarkable injustices that meets one's eye in the rift valley is the state of the the roads leading to and from Kericho.
The ones from Kericho to Kisii were perfectly tarmacked. From Kericho to Nakuru or Kericho to Kisumu, the roads are just plowed fields. Nyachae was the minister in charge until the fatal elections. Whether he got orders from the state house to punish the Kalenjin is a point yet to be scrutinized.



So does this mean that the Kisii are somehow to blame for the state of the roads from Kericho to Nakuru and Kisumu? Does the ministry of roads and transportation get its orders from the Kisii people? I don't get it.
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written by Victoria , February 03, 2008
Perhaps Nyachae just needed a smooth passage from kericho to his hometown-and didnt do much travelling from kericho to nakuru or kisumu- neccesity is afterall the mother of invention. Its a common practice among politicians to develop their own areas and not others and has little to do with a conscious effort to punish a certain ethnic group as much as it has to do with developing one's own area. Let the man (Nyachae)be held accountable for his own actions- why did it have to be government (read kibaki) sanctioned- otherwise the same logic can easily be extended to opposition leaders-eg if Ruto is deeemed responsible for the ethnic cleansing in RV- should we then assume this was a directive from RO?
As for the author I think alot more interspection of this issue is neccesary before apologizing for anyone.And you neednt look too far- even among middle class kenyans- there are many of us in nuclear families with wealth, priviledge and opportunity that sets us apart even from extended family members- let alone an entire ethnic group. Im sure if Wambui looked -and not very hard- among her cousins, aunts, uncles the majority of her extended family was probably not infact priviledged. Now multiple this times the population of entire 7.m kikuyu poplation and tell me what percentage of this community is really priviledge. Then slook at other ethnic groups (esepcially the larger ones) and compare the percentages here- it wouldnt surprise me that they are alot more similarities than you think. If you feel you yourself or your father in the government or members of your family have gained discriminately over others then by all means - seek penance-but refrain from extending this to all kikuyus- for we all have not eaten at the same table.
Incidentally the problems of black vs white is infact alot different - for example in the US where ther has been a concerted effort to oppress blacks starting with the former slave master relationship, the lack of equal education and employment opportunities following emancipation, discrimination etcetc - have played a large role in determining these politics,and thats a whole other book. In other places- where blacks have emigrated to as foreigners they are sometimes subject to hopitality such as that witnessed in RV, where a community's fears are largely selfish- with preservation and utilization of resources deemed for the benefit of the indigenous peoples and not for that of "outsiders".
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re: The Kisii community
written by Nyabs , February 03, 2008
The politician Nyachae from Kisii did his people a disservice. The Kisii never had a president but had the old man Nyachae. The most remarkable injustices that meets one's eye in the rift valley is the state of the the roads leading to and from Kericho.
The ones from Kericho to Kisii were perfectly tarmacked. From Kericho to Nakuru or Kericho to Kisumu, the roads are just plowed fields.

My brother Wuod Aketch,
I would have expected that with 24 years of a Moi presidency that the roads leading to and out of the Rift Valley would have been as smooth as glass!
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written by Wuod Aketch , February 03, 2008

My brother Wuod Aketch,
I would have expected that with 24 years of a Moi presidency that the roads leading to and out of the Rift Valley would have been as smooth as glass!


Let me remind you that roads are just like gardens, if you do not tender them they tend to grow weeds. So even if Moi had built them, maintenance was necessary so that they remained smooth in 2007.
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Utimishi kwa wote
written by Wuod Aketch , February 03, 2008
Perhaps Nyachae just needed a smooth passage from kericho to his hometown-and didnt do much travelling from kericho to nakuru or kisumu- neccesity is afterall the mother of invention.

It is the perhaps that Kenyans are fighting against today.
I spent a lot of money repairing my car after traveling from Nairobi to Kisumu to and fro last August. This is all foreign exchange lost in buying motor spare parts.
You may argue that this gives jobs to the garage mechanics and jua kali, but I think we are just sustaining the Toyotas (Japanese motor industries) and the Peugeots (the European motor industry) manufacturers.
The term Utimishi kwa wote should apply to all the ministerial/government posts.

We all know that these practices where people go into government for their own comfort and interests is what the ODM and the wananchi are striving to change by all means. I believe they will manage for a better Kenya.
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Not Guilty
written by Wuod Aketch , February 03, 2008
I do not know what to make of Wambui Mwangi's article.
No Kikuyu needs to feel guilty. Most know very well that the violences have been an anger against those that remain unattainable and use government forces to punish the opposition. In reality the Kikuyus are just victims of a few people known as Mt Kenya mafia who have used their naivety to advance their own cause. These people are holed in State house. The same people have maimed Gitobu Imanyara, kicked out a just person in the name of Stanley Murage and killed two legislators. They are now financing the mungiki.
The Kikuyu need to distinguish themselves from the Mt Kenya mafia otherwise they will continue suffering. They have nothing to gain from these selfish mafioso.
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Self-Examination
written by Omundu , February 03, 2008
I applaud Wambui for setting this Pace.

We need more of your kind in here to help this non-thinking hard liners on this forum see. Most have written off the dying poor in Kenya as idlers with no brain, nor hard work ethic that only have themselves to blame for their fate.
WRONG!

They beleive this people have no idea about wealth creation...you can read how they try to justify their stands, with some even claiming they are non-kikuyus who see nothing wrong in the situation.
Poverty can do horrible things to a human mind, and if we take this ignorant stand of refusing to self examine, we are doomed for with a majority of the poor, we the rich suffer when the poor revolt. After all they have nothing to loos.

Let me start by stating that I am a luhya, from a 'hard working' family, but have always taken a kin interest in what goes on. It is something taht was instilled in me from childhood.

I talked to my old man few days ago, a man who has never engaged in politics, worked his butt off for the govt, beleiving he was serving his people, known to be honest to a fault.

To hear my own father admit that despite my constituency Bumula voting PNU, the gaping difference between the poor and rich was intolerable.
It is unthinkable then that this poor who have taken to the street are simply thought of as 'misguided armies' of politicians. They are hardworking Kenyans who have been screwed by their govt and are willing to die for the future of their children

Let us ask ourselves, how did we get here. This smart ass replies of Kikuyus have nothing to apologise for show a retarded thought process.

Do you beleive these other people are crazy to wake up one day and hate on Kikuyus? Or is it the Kikuyu 'Kingship' leading them to beleive they are being fought?
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written by dalani , February 03, 2008
I know what lttle I can say may make no difference:
but the tribal situation serves no one..the culprits who planted the seeds of hate are long gone.. now some tribes choose to hate another..

could it be that Kikuyus have become proxies for those that cannot be reached...comparable to a man who beats his wife when he's had a bad day at work ..simply because he cannot fight a system or what he perceives as assailable powers that be.??
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written by a guest , February 03, 2008
Let us not confuse refusing to be hold kikuyus as a community responsible for the economic plight of other groups in the country, with apathy for poor people. The point here is simply that there are just as many poor kikuyus as are present in most other ethnic groups so this is not an issue of ethnicity. However, what the author has done here is to extend her own personal or family's guilt about being priviledged to an entire ethnic group, which is the real ignorance, because it shows how how little she really knows about the community she proffesses to be a part of.
Nobody is diputing it is poverty that is at the center of the violence we are seeing-but this is not the poor fighting the rich- it is as in most conflicts the poor fighting the poor of different ethnic groups-and thats just the problem. The poor are the most vunerable when it comes such conflcits as they may feel have they least to lose- which is precisely why they are targeted by politicians.
As has been already pointed out the priviledged have a responsibility to take care of the less priviledegs whether out of a sense of compassion, or beliefs that stem from their upbringing,even patriotism,or maybe just the recognition that one could just as easily have been born to a different less priviledged family.I believe alot of us know we have this duty.
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re: Odious rubbish
written by Hussein Musa , February 04, 2008
Then when economic majimbo was put forward they twisted into saying they would be evicted from Rv and everywhere else.Now funny thing is that it was one big lie that has become reality.As they say don't rock the boat.


Previous bouts of ethnic cleansing in the Rift have been preceded by majimbo talk of varying degrees of floweriness. Non-Kalenjins in the Rift Valley were quite sensible to object to majimbo talk.

If you're going to continue posting this sort of vile stupidity, you might like to get your facts right.


Daniel

Vile stupidity is a bit to strong mister i suggest you put forward your argument in proper manner.My point was raised concerning these year elections i understand there was similar killings over land in Rv in 1992,1997 respectively.In 2002 was only exception due to unity between all tribes against moi. Kibaki scaremongering has landed his people into frying pan not that i enjoy to see kenya being balkanized into tribal provinces.In fact these same provinces have to be divided further in order for all side to be happy.Pnu and kibaki are to be fully blamed for what happened before and after elections.They created so much negative talks and fears knowing full well that it would lead to more killings in RV.
It very strange for you not to see these in first place but point your fingers on odm.So what is wrong with majimbo talk exactly? if these issue is discussed fully in public in proper manner odm nor raila coud muster majority to pass it into law.The 2005 referendum was due to fact kibaki did not engage kenyans into looking at bomas constitution but went ahead and modified it.Kenya real problem is kibaki after 2002 he disregarded mou with LDP which at time was representing both luhyas,luos,kambas and others.You should be aware kenyans today have taken to the street to demand their rights and freedom from hands of few.It up to you to come to terms with these reality.It no longer safe for a kikuyu to be in Rv etc and that is fact you cannot deny.But your bigotry like kibaki and others has blinded them so much that they only see Raila and odm.Wake up kenya is there by name only.Kibaki can preside over state house,central and eastern province.The facts is everytime he open his mouth more killings is carried out.Does that tell you anything????
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written by Daniel.Waweru , February 04, 2008
Vile stupidity is a bit to strong mister i suggest you put forward your argument in proper manner.My point was raised concerning these year elections i understand there was similar killings over land in Rv in 1992,1997 respectively.In 2002 was only exception due to unity between all tribes against moi.


There were murders and evictions in the Rift Valley in 2001 and 2002

Kibaki scaremongering has landed his people into frying pan not that i enjoy to see kenya being balkanized into tribal provinces.In fact these same provinces have to be divided further in order for all side to be happy.Pnu and kibaki are to be fully blamed for what happened before and after elections.They created so much negative talks and fears knowing full well that it would lead to more killings in RV.


No doubt the actual killers and arsonists were compelled to kill and burn by Kibaki and PNU.

Kibaki, in particular, had good reason to warn of the implications of majimbo, since, after he filed his election petition against Moi, people from Nyeri were targeted in the Rift Valley.

It very strange for you not to see these in first place but point your fingers on odm.So what is wrong with majimbo talk exactly?


It is deliberate incitement to ethnic cleansing.
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Fresh attacks
written by Kenyan , February 04, 2008
Reuters reports, the violence continues, especially in the South Rift where Kisiis are now the primary victims. In an indication of gangs being organised, a white pick-up delivered food and milk to armed youths in Chebilat town before they used tyres, petrol and straw to torch a medical centre.

Link here
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written by a guest , February 04, 2008
It very strange for you not to see these in first place but point your fingers on ODM.So what is wrong with majimbo talk exactly?
It is deliberate incitement to ethnic cleansing.

Daniel
Why is it deliberate incitement?? Majimbo means federalism which is practised by many countries etc USA and others. Are you saying Kenyans cannot discuss these issues? So the only evidence you have that links ODM to the killings was the fact they called for Majimbo. I understand the Kikuyu being worried about Majimbo but by not talking about it in open manner we have in fact made situation even worse. Kenyans are not little kids to be told what to do or discuss.I am afraid that your points are null and void.So in theory you are saying for Raila to call for Majimbo he is inciting? Just answer that please. Daniel not for one second do I enjoy seeing those killers in the North Rift nor in Naivasha but all these crazy theories being put forward by people like you and the PNU brigade have made Kenya what it is. I know Raila would never be president of republic of Kenya. This is in fact what many Kikuyu friends have told me. But I also know as long as Kibaki is ruling Kenya all those displaced people will never return to their land in the RVP. Believe me unless you are in the twilight zone you would know the situation on the ground is irreversible the politicians are no longer that much in control neither are the security forces as they are taking sides.
Kofi Annan peace talk is too late and too weak for many Kenyans.In fact Kibaki is already busy undermining his efforts. By the time he realizes that Kenya is gone it will be too late. Personally I feel that Majimbo is better than a failed state. According to mediation those displaced from their lands would be compensated. The only thing to solve is the political problem which is about the election.
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written by a guest , February 04, 2008
yes please. i am from central. The only reason I opposed majimbo was the thousands of pooor souls whom we correctly figured would be killed and driven out under what raila called 'ugatuzi' in his usual butter and eggs languange to canvass ethnic cleansing.

Sawa basi.whats been done has been done. lets have that majimbo now.
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written by aliosema , February 04, 2008
Anonymous calling for majimbo! Have you not read the reports about people camped in police stations ALL OVER the country. Why do you think if is okay for any single Kenyan to be displaced. So far what have seen of majimbo is ethnic cleansing. Who cares what ODM meant. That is the outcome. If the siamese pentagoners (sextagoners?) thought differently, their followers have interpreted it as such. This is the problem with phd holders such as anyang trying to spread over-intellectualised-philosophical-constructs (inclusion, brah brah, brah) among the uneducated. All they heard was majimbo = get rid of your neighbour + you can take over their houses and business. Despite their educational pedigree, for failing to predict the outcome of their ill fated ethnic demonisation strategy ODM leaders have proved themselves simpletons. They even thought it wise to bring Dick Morris into the delicate-41-mix that was Kenya. With his cut and paste strategy (one orange + one million marchers + ethnic isolation + claims of rigging = win) Dicky boy helped cut and paste Kenya into an ethnic-hateland (I can just picture him sitting in the comfort of his office saying to himself "Oops, I fudged that one"). God forbid ODM ever rules Kenya, who knows what other half cooked cockamamee schemes they have in store for us??

Majimbo? never! Devolution? why not!
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written by Hussein Musa , February 04, 2008
Majimbo? never! Devolution? why not!

Haha that is funny.You people must get real.Democracy= rule of majority 41 kenyan tribe wanted majimbo which means 1 tribe called kikuyus objected to it.Then chief kibaki stole election openly in front of whole world.So majority decided to forcefully remove kikuyus in their midst and create a majimbo by default.While the method they used is very barbaric etc killing women,children they have finally got their message across.It now very childish of you to expect these people to welcome back those displaced people in police stations,churches.
I was watching al jazeera and they interviewed these soldiers in eldoret who wanted to join their people in killings etc.I am not suggesting that it right but get real and don't rock the boat again otherwise we may end in civil war.Kibaki can keep the presidency but his authority is only around nairobi,central etc.He still has time to save himself from being written in history as man who destroyed kenya.Kenyatta was a classic thief but he knew his limits so was moi.It high time kibaki followed suit.
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Well said Hussein.
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re: Not Guilty
written by Mzalendo1 , February 04, 2008
I do not know what to make of Wambui Mwangi's article.
No Kikuyu needs to feel guilty. Most know very well that the violences have been an anger against those that remain unattainable and use government forces to punish the opposition. In reality the Kikuyus are just victims of a few people known as Mt Kenya mafia who have used their naivety to advance their own cause. These people are holed in State house. The same people have maimed Gitobu Imanyara, kicked out a just person in the name of Stanley Murage and killed two legislators. They are now financing the mungiki.
The Kikuyu need to distinguish themselves from the Mt Kenya mafia otherwise they will continue suffering. They have nothing to gain from these selfish mafioso.

These mafia must be very tough. They maimed a man who looked very healthy today and managed to force an mp to seduce a policeman's wife so that he could shoot him. What great powers they have!
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written by Watetu , February 04, 2008
Majimbo? never! Devolution? why not!

Haha that is funny.You people must get real.Democracy= rule of majority 41 kenyan tribe wanted majimbo which means 1 tribe called kikuyus objected to it.


You seem to have got yourself a little confused so let me help you out, roughly 4.3million Keyans (which figure is actually even higher than the figure Mudavadi quoted as the legitimate figure when he claimed that Raila had won and should be declared the new president)voted for majimbo. On the other hand, roughly 5 million Kenyans voted against it and that is taking into account the alleged 250,000 votes that were stolen. Please note as well that Raila is also alleged to have rigged and not just by PNU. This idea that ODM are the majority of Kenyans and the only ones whose rights and issues should be addressed is ludicrous.

It is you that needs to 'get real'. This may come as a shock to you but those that voted against ODM are people too with rights. No amount of rigging justifies the carnage in our country and we as Kenyans need to stop justifying our leaders for failing us.
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written by Hussein Musa , February 04, 2008
Majimbo? never! Devolution? why not!

Haha that is funny.You people must get real.Democracy= rule of majority 41 kenyan tribe wanted majimbo which means 1 tribe called kikuyus objected to it.


You seem to have got yourself a little confused so let me help you out, roughly 4.3million Keyans (which figure is actually even higher than the figure Mudavadi quoted as the legitimate figure when he claimed that Raila had won and should be declared the new president)voted for majimbo. On the other hand, roughly 5 million Kenyans voted against it and that is taking into account the alleged 250,000 votes that were stolen. Please note as well that Raila is also alleged to have rigged and not just by PNU. This idea that ODM are the majority of Kenyans and the only ones whose rights and issues should be addressed is ludicrous.

It is you that needs to 'get real'. This may come as a shock to you but those that voted against ODM are people too with rights. No amount of rigging justifies the carnage in our country and we as Kenyans need to stop justifying our leaders for failing us.


WATETU

democracy is man made concept,it Faulty to the core.But at the end of day majority rule full stop.In fact total votes in kenya has to be something like 18 million but due to corrupt goverment only 14m where registered.Yes every vote matters but at the end of day majority rule.That is democracy etc Bush came to power in us he then delared war without support from the rest of country that is reality of democracy.In end it rule of few(rich) over the rest(poor).
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written by Daniel.Waweru , February 04, 2008
Anonymous,

So the only evidence you have that links ODM to the killings was the fact they called for Majimbo.


As it happens, no. There is a HRW investigation linking ODM activists and officials to the planning of the violence. I've also talked to victims of the Rift Valley violence; and, as I said in a earlier piece, I'm familiar with the conduct of the campaign in parts of the Rift Valley. (Perhaps you'd like to inspect my other pieces on the matter?)
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The timing and distribution of
written by mkosakabila , February 04, 2008
To whomever can help with this (I know there are lots of gurus out there!), I'd greatly appreciate. It seems as though for earlier election periods, the cleansing of Kikuyus from the rift occurred before ballots were cast i.e prior to election day. No? For 2007, the brutal cleansing seems to have happened after the election. My impression. What might be the reason for this? In addition, the distribution of the violence across years. For 2007, the greatest cleansing effort (my apologies for sanitizing such a costly tragedy) appears to be in the Nandi district, unlike in the Kuresoi, Keringet, Ndoinet, Saino etc areas of the Mau complex in earlier times. Again, my impression. What might be the reason for this?
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written by Daniel.Waweru , February 04, 2008
Anonymous,

Why is it deliberate incitement?? Majimbo means federalism which is practised by many countries etc USA and others.


Probably not. Let's begin with the semantics. The dictionary definition of jimbo is region or province; presumably, majimbo, in the first instance, refers to a collection of those. So, sensu stricto, majimbo is a synonym of regionalism (or provincialism of a certain sort). All this at the level of lexical definition. But, as everyone who has ever used the word pussy knows, the lexical meaning of a word is an unreliable guide to its meaning in conversation. In any case Wittgenstein appears to have taught us that meaning is use: if you wish to discover what a piece of language signifies, look at how it is used.

Now. Every time there has been a campaign on a majimbo platform, ethnic cleansing and murder has followed. This pattern has recurred at every election since 1992. Indeed, in 1992, the promulgators of majimbo didn't bother to hide their intentions: they announced, at public rallies no less, their desire to create monoethnic regions by the expulsion of some communities (usually Kisii, Kikuyu, and Luhya in the Rift Valley; mostly Kamba, Kikuyu, Luo and Luhya at the Coast). See, for example, William Ole Ntimama's request that Kikuyus lie low like envelopes in Enoosupukia and his further remark that Kikuyus in Narok would not be allowed to vote. Not long after these comments, 500 warriors murdered 33 Kikuyus. You might also remember the rally in September 1991 at which prominent politicians declared RVP a KANU zone, banned 'opposition tribes' from entering, and threatened those who lived there. And nor was this accidental; the evidence that it was part of a deliberate strategy (see here, for example, for a decent examination of the financing and training for violence at the Coast in 1997) to retain or gain political power is overwhelming.

Given these facts, it is clear that majimbo, as used in Kenya, is, in fact, a synonym of monoethnic regionalism. It follows that arguments from the dictionary definition of majimbo (which you've misidentified in any case) to the conclusion that the use of majimbo is not deliberate incitement to ethnic cleasing are unsound.
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written by Ndorobo , February 04, 2008
Majimbo that was discussed in bomas was more like economic federalism

Hussein, this is what you claim. However, as has been continuously harped on, perception and reality, especially in politics are different. How many of those evicting people from their homes have a copy of this bomas draft. Many understood Majimbo to mean that people should move to their "ancestral" lands.

The issue was not discussed properly in election due to facts the state monopolized the instrument of information.

I agree with you. The issues was not addressed properly because it was a campaign tool. I am forced to ask whether you have been to Kenya recently. Do you know how many radio stations we have? Many of them in vernacular and obviously skewed one-way or the other. The days of only KBC radio are long gone. So, please stop the stereotyping by throwing phrases out there while the reality on the ground has long changed. In your own words, Let's get real here once

Violence would calm down once public get what they want which is majimbo
So would majimbo create land? this is what most of the violence is supposedly about? And the people who want land, want it now!

I simply do not accept that odm rigged in anyway. Odm may be victim of deliberate rigging by government to balance out their rigging full stop
Refusing to accept reality is obviously not a concept new to you. There were suspiciously high voter turnouts in ODM's strongholds. There was the death of the APs (who were accompanying/providing security ballot boxes), standard procedure of any election if I may point out? These are the facts. Whether you accept them or not is your prerogative. It does not change the facts. Neither does throwing unverifiable claims change the facts.

odm had no instrument of rigging election at all
Voter intimidation counts as rigging. See paragraph above for more on that.

Get real and see why 800 lost their life with 500,000 displaced from their lands why??
i know it both election and land issues. So it was planned please feel free to pass all real evidence against odm to court
Did you say courts? Seriously?
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40 acres and a mule mentality.
written by ahappyspark , February 04, 2008

My brother Wuod Aketch,
I would have expected that with 24 years of a Moi presidency that the roads leading to and out of the Rift Valley would have been as smooth as glass!


Let me remind you that roads are just like gardens, if you do not tender them they tend to grow weeds. So even if Moi had built them, maintenance was necessary so that they remained smooth in 2007.


I think sir you are looking for every excuse in the book....was not Raila Odinga minister of transport past 4 - 5 years....what did he do about this problem.....call out responsibility from within the community, the community that voted him in should hold him accountable for what he did or did not do...not hold him in Demi-God status and have no expectations....expect of him, then maybe we can all respect him.
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No Peace, No Negotiations
written by Ndorobo , February 05, 2008
As for the article, the co-called political scientist is providing a skewed view. There are accusations against Mungiki and veiled attempts to link them with the current administration. What about the Kalenjin warriors? Are they not going with the creed, No Raila, No Peace? Are they not in fact ODM supporters? If not, why has the ODM leadership not distanced itself from these people? Why have they not called these criminals what they are? Criminals?
At least the government, through Saitoti had the guts to say No Violence and ALL perpetrators will be prosecuted and Naivasha and Nakuru have been relatively peaceful. How come Raila has not explicitly stated that he does not need violence to get to power? As someone asked, if this is about demonstration, why does Raila do the MLKing'sque thing and march on the front lines?

I say, No peace, No Negotiations! We shall not have political negotiations with a gun to our head. Hav eyou considered how the negotiations will go if there is still violence? Every time there is a concession deemed unacceptable, human carnage will follow. So, No Peace, No Negotiations!

Whether you are PNU Damu, ODM Maji or ODM-K Plasma, peace should be a pre-requisite for negotiations. Even in one of our most historic moments, the clamor for multi-partysm, we still went on with our lives. Now we are hostages in our own homes, too scared to venture too far, afraid to spend money. Unsure of tomorrow, limited in our choice of places to work.
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written by Ndorobo , February 05, 2008
Hussein, while you were in Kenya, how many radio stations did you encounter? And how many were state controlled? I bet a majority were independent and not state controlled.
As for the article, the co-called political scientist is providing a skewed view. There are accusations against Mungiki and veiled attempts to link them with the current administration. What about the Kalenjin warriors? Are they not going with the creed, No Raila, No Peace? Are they not in fact ODM supporters? If not, why has the ODM leadership not distanced itself from these people? Why have they not called these criminals what they are? Criminals?
At least the government, through Saitoti had the guts to say No Violence and ALL perpetrators will be prosecuted and Naivasha and Nakuru have been relatively peaceful. How come Raila has not explicitly stated that he does not need violence to get to power? As someone asked, if this is about demonstration, why does Raila do the MLKing'sque thing and march on the front lines?

I say, No peace, No Negotiations! We shall not have political negotiations with a gun to our head. Hav eyou considered how the negotiations will go if there is still violence? Every time there is a concession deemed unacceptable, human carnage will follow. So, No Peace, No Negotiations!

Whether you are PNU Damu, ODM Maji or ODM-K Plasma, peace should be a pre-requisite for negotiations. Even in one of our most historic moments, the clamor for multi-partysm, we still went on with our lives. Now we are hostages in our own homes, too scared to venture too far, afraid to spend money. Unsure of tomorrow, limited in our choice of places to work
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written by Nyabs , February 05, 2008
Majimbo? never! Devolution? why not!
Haha that is funny.You people must get real. Democracy= rule of majority 41 Kenyan tribes wanted Majimbo which means 1 tribe called Kikuyu objected to it.Then chief Kibaki stole election openly in front of whole world.So majority decided to forcefully remove Kikuyu in their midst and create a Majimbo by default. While the method they used is very barbaric, i.e killing women,children they have finally got their message across.It now very childish of you to expect these people to welcome back those displaced people in police stations,churches.


Gently Hussein, gently. Firstly, an honest answer as to who won the Kenyan election is " we don't know" because Raila stuffed boxes in areas where he had control and Kibaki cooked up figures at KICC. No one, and I repeat, no one, has been able to tell us what the true cast and counted votes were, when we exclude the padded votes of Raila and the ones added to Kibaki. So, we don't know who won.

Secondly, even if Kibaki did rig, killing people, burning their properties and pushing them into displaced people's camps is not a response that any level headed, educated, internet connected person should condone. The ethnic cleansing, whether in Central Kenya or Rift Valley, should be condemned unreservedly by all of us.

Let me try to bring it a little bit closer home Hussein. You are walking in the streets of Nairobi, which has been taken over by some militia that does not like people whose last name is Hussein. They ask for your ID, you have no option but to give it out and the moment they see that your name is Hussein, you are killed instantly. I am sure if this was to happen to you, you would not be so quick to support the "Majimbo" system that has been so effectively and efficiently effected in Rift Valley and Kisumu and which some fools tried out in Nakuru and Naivasha, mercifully, with limited success.

Fortunately for you and me, this is an intellectual discourse, conducted from the comfort of our homes and with state of the art computers, connected to 24 hour internet. For some 300,000 Kenyans, it is closer home. For some 1000 others, it is just too late.

You do not want to be killed or displaced just because your name is Hussein. Neither do I. And it should never have happened in the first place. So, let us not try to justify it.

If some parties really feel aggrieved about the vote stealing, then the rightful target is the current tenant at State House, not some poor defenceless woman whose name is Wanjiku on a farm in Eldoret.

But I am sure the cowards who feel so passionate about the issue of vote stealing will not be not be taking their battle to State House. Why risk being killed by the Presidential Guards when Wanjiku is such a convenient target? After all she speaks the same language as our enemy in State House.
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written by Mzalendo , February 05, 2008
Majimbo? never! Devolution? why not!

Haha that is funny.You people must get real.Democracy= rule of majority 41 Kenyan tribe wanted Majimbo which means 1 tribe called Kikuyu objected to it.Then chief Kibaki stole election openly in front of whole world.So majority decided to forcefully remove Kikuyu in their midst and create a Jimbo by default.While the method they used is very barbaric etc killing women,children they have finally got their message across.It now very childish of you to expect these people to welcome back those displaced people in police stations,churches.
I was watching Al-Jazeera and they interviewed these soldiers in Eldoret who wanted to join their people in killings etc. I am not suggesting that it right but get real and don't rock the boat again otherwise we may end in civil war.Kibaki can keep the presidency but his authority is only around Nairobi,Central etc. He still has time to save himself from being written in history as man who destroyed Kenya. Kenyatta was a classic thief but he knew his limits so was Moi. It is high time Kibaki followed suit.


Rule of the majority. Hmmm! I like this thing already. If we are 10 strong men, then we can beat up and kill 1 cowering child and shout "democracy!"
Please do NOT display your ignorance here sir. Democracy has evolved over thousands of years. It is based on the tenets of representation for all. One man, one vote! and that every man should have a say in determining his destiny.
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written by Watetu , February 05, 2008
It is deliberate incitement to ethnic cleansing.

Daniel
Why is it deliberate incitement?? Majimbo means federalism which is practised by many countries etc USA and others. Are you saying Kenyans cannot discuss these issues?


ODM made a mistake by using the word majimbo. That is why they began saying what they actually meant was Ugatuzi. It was clear at some point that they were not completely sure what they wanted to implement. Also doesn't it strike you as odd that prior to these elections, most of the Pentagon members were vehemently against the implementation of Majimbo.

So the only evidence you have that links ODM to the killings was the fact they called for


No there are various reports one of which was conducted by the Human Rights Watch that provided evidence to this effect. Also anyone that is truly open to finding out the truth about this situation rather than Kibaki bashing or Raila bashing would not have to look very far to see this.

Majimbo. I understand the Kikuyu being worried about Majimbo but by not talking about it in open manner we have in fact made situation even worse.


There were various programmes televised prior to election where civilians and politicians were given a chance to address this issue. What struck me the most as I mentioned earlier was that it was never made clear exactly what type of Majimbo was being proposed and whether this Majimbo was the Majimbo we really wanted. There were even some in Coast that had serious reservations about it was there was no proper definition of what ODM really meant. Likening it to the system to that of Nigeria which has struggled with it for years did not help matters either.


So in theory you are saying for Raila to call for Majimbo he is inciting? Just answer that please. Daniel not for one second do I enjoy seeing those killers in the North Rift nor in Naivasha but all these crazy theories being put forward by people like you and the PNU brigade have made Kenya what it is.


The history of Majimbo in this country speaks for itself and is the root of these 'crazy theories' of which you speak. Please note however that Kenya is not where it is because of the Majimbo debate. It is where it is because ODM made sure that people believed a PNU win must be stolen(the campaign to reject the results as rigged began well before the elections). Further ODM did not follow the prescribed methods to address their concerns on rigging and the constant calls for rallies in an already divided nation was neither prudent nor statesmanly. He should have gone to court and if the system is as flawed as he says he should have exposed it using his petition as evidence.

I know Raila would never be president of republic of Kenya. This is in fact what many Kikuyu friends have told me. But I also know as long as Kibaki is ruling Kenya all those displaced people will never return to their land in the RVP.


If ever Raila had an opportunity to prove himself as a leader, this was it. In 1997 he took the easy way out and joined Moi's government after the alleged rigged elections. If in the just concluded elections he had rejected the results as rigged but, rather than holding rallies, file election petitions and shame his critics by doing a stellar job opposition leader, he would have been a shoo in for the 2012 seat.

Kofi Annan peace talk is too late and too weak for many Kenyans.In fact Kibaki is already busy undermining his efforts. By the time he realizes that Kenya is gone it will be too late. Personally I feel that Majimbo is better than a failed state. According to mediation those displaced from their lands would be compensated. The only thing to solve is the political problem which is about the election.


You are clearly the one living in the twilight zone if can't see that the problem here is not the election. If it is then why are the Kisii who voted ODM being killed? As for undermining the negotiation process, I highly doubt that Raila's constant public claims of being the real president even after the negotiations started, are doing anything to help the situation. The sad truth is, Kibaki's statement that ODM should go to court is valid and in no way undermines the negotiations. That is the prescribed way of resolving election disputes in Kenya. Kenyan lives are not leverage for political ambition. For the sake of future generations let us not set that precedent.
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I simply do not accept that ODM rigged in anyway.ODM may be victim of deliberate rigging by government to balance out their rigging full stop.The facts new ECK officials where appointed days before election and 17 new judges speak volume of Kibaki.The state has means to rig election 1 million % but ODM had no instrument of rigging election at all. So please do not take Kenyans for kids.


Surely, how can you come to the conclusion that ODM did not rig when there were reports that even before the elections started, suspected PNU agents were being butchered in Nyanza. How is voting supposed to be free and fair in this type of an environment? How can we rule out rigging when PNU agents in many ODM strongholds did not sign the infamous forms 16A and there were widespread reports of PNU agents being locked out of counting halls, even in Raila's Langata constituency? What are we supposed to conclude when voter turnout in some of these ODM strongholds eventually turned out to be higher than in most of the constituencies that ODM claims PNU rigged in?

Don't kid yourself, ODM rigged. Obviously, Kibaki is not very motivated to push this arguement because he cannot on one hand claim he was "duly elected" in a free and fair election, then turn around and claim ODM rigged too. It is interested that Raila on the other hand is screaming at the top of his voice about a stolen presidency when he himself was involved in irregularities in the Langata MP election. At the end of the day, Politicians are a different type of animal....if to this day men still have problems understanding women, then I'm afraid there is not hope all of us will ever understand the thoughts that go through a politician's heads! That's why we are where we are today.
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written by Hussein Musa , February 05, 2008
Hussein, Please avoid pasting links without at least an introductory paragraph. Readers need to know what it is you are directing them to. Eds.

Link here.
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written by a guest , February 05, 2008
Every time there has been a campaign on a Majimbo platform, ethnic cleansing and murder has followed. This pattern has recurred at every election since 1992. Indeed, in 1992, the promulgators of Majimbo didn't bother to hide their intentions: they announced, at public rallies no less, their desire to create mono-ethnic regions by the expulsion of some communities.


Daniel
You have point Majimbo called by some ODM memebers is null and void,also judging from there retoric it seem to have scared few people.In fact everyone should be scared cause it bigotry.My question why did they only target the Kikuyu? But you should also know very well Kibaki has instrument of security in his hand why did he not prepare hi people by putting security forces in place if he was going to rig the election?to me ODM are what I call desperados in their campaigning method their was a lot of negativity in air.My question to you is also since Kibaki is such an impotent figure why are you still backing him? Kibaki first action was to order shoot to kill Luo in Kisumu instead of shooting those Rift Valley monsters? He now has created too many enemies for his own good.
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written by Hussein Musa , February 05, 2008
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Let get real here once for all,Thanks i would be gentle. The Majimbo that was discussed in Bomas was more like economic federalism. Bomas also recognized the right of every Kenya to buy and live anywhere in Kenya. Brothers correct me if I am wrong here.If some crazy people want to use it to etc remove Kikuyus from their areas then it is 1000% wrong.The issue was not discussed properly in election due to facts the state monopolised the instrument of information.What Bomas would have done for Kenya is equal distribution of resources.Majimbo is way out for Kenya at the moment.Violence would calm down once public get what they want which is Majimbo Or economic devolution.These would also coincide with creation of new power structure Etc power would be divided between head of state and prime minister with greater role for parliament.Please do not patronize us we Kenyans know what we want.Most of violence directed at Kikuyu has to be addressed once for all.It no good that once we have peace we ignore the facts 800 people lost their life majority being Kikuyu. Justice has to be served to those who killed from both side.

I simply do not accept that ODM rigged in anyway.ODM may be victim of deliberate rigging by government to balance out their rigging full stop.The facts new ECK officials where appointed days before election and 17 new judges speak volume of Kibaki.The state has means to rig election 1 million % but ODM had no instrument of rigging election at all. So please do not take Kenyans for kids.Get real and see why 800 lost their life with 500,000 displaced from their lands why??
i know it both election and land issues.So it was planned please feel free to pass all real evidence against ODM to court.If Kibaki didn't rig like you claim why is he scared of new election why? how many more have to lost their life before you see that these time Kenyans would rather be dead than accept Kibaki.They simply have nothing to lost,Unlike you and me living in comfortable life these slum dwellers have no food,no clothes so they have nothing to lose.The middle class can sit it out for a while but as in Congo Brazzaville it would soon engulf them too. Daniel you have some point which I fully agree with thanks.
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written by Daniel.Waweru , February 05, 2008
To whomever can help with this (I know there are lots of gurus out there!), I'd greatly appreciate. It seems as though for earlier election periods, the cleansing of Kikuyus from the rift occurred before ballots were cast i.e prior to election day. No? For 2007, the brutal cleansing seems to have happened after the election. My impression. What might be the reason for this? In addition, the distribution of the violence across years. For 2007, the greatest cleansing effort (my apologies for sanitizing such a costly tragedy) appears to be in the Nandi district, unlike in the Kuresoi, Keringet, Ndoinet, Saino etc areas of the Mau complex in earlier times. Again, my impression. What might be the reason for this?


No widespread violence before the vote, probably because, unlike previous rounds, the militias couldn't rely on the active cooperation of the state. Post-ballot, the reasoning may have been that if there was an ODM government, then immunity was guaranteed; after all the people named in the Akiwumi report have faced no legal consequences. If there wasn't an ODM government, then the killings would provide very useful leverage against the government.

In 1992, as now, Nandi and Uasin Gishu districts were very efficiently cleansed. I can't think of a good reason why that pattern has recurred in 2007.
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written by manta ray , February 05, 2008
I applaud Wambui for setting this Pace. We need more of your kind in here to help this non-thinking hard liners on this forum see. Most have written off the dying poor in Kenya as idlers with no brain, nor hard work ethic that only have themselves to blame for their fate.
WRONG! ..........etc.


Mr Omundukhumundu, Listen to me loudly and clearly: I am a Kikuyu and I have nothing to apologise for, to nnybody! You got that?

What do i need to apologise for, and to whom, if I have made a success of my life?! I have struggled to get to where I am, sometimes having to go days without food or support even from fellow Kikuyu I thought were my friends. I finally made it, all on my own, and without the help of fellow Kikuyu tribesmen in high places.

So I find it extremely insulting for you to claim that I, because some mindless and ignorant young idiots in mostly the Rift Valley and Western Kenya chose to violently protest what they thought was a stolen vote, little questioning that they were in reality the victims of a massive national seduction by a master-conman and his cohorts in a vehicle called the ODM, should now experience an epiphany and say; "Oh! You mean you are so angry because the Kikuyu are in power? I am so sorry! How could we Kikuyu do this to you? What can I do to help?" My friend, you will wait until hell freezes over.

Your disengaged and confused synapse-disconnect is exposed by your equally ignorant statement that there is such a thing as Kikuyu "Kingship", as you stupidly call it. Many Kikuyus have made and will continue to make their wealth with or without Kibaki. If you do not believe me, ask yourself why they were making money even as Moi, an absolute dictator, tried his evil best to break them and failed? If tribal "Kingship" is the path to economic Nirvana according to your revered gospel, why did the Kalenjin elite not catch up with the Kikuyu, in spite of being endowed with fertile land in the Rift Valley and having unimpeded liberty to loot the treasury for 24 YEARS?! They have had the Eldoret Airport for over TEN years now, yet it is only last week that some Kalenjin businessman was able to export the first shipment of flowers to Europe??!! What were they doing all this time, all these years? Oh! wait a minute, somehow the Kikuyu had something to do with it, how stupid of me! Let me give you some free advise: The only person who can and will change your fortunes is yourself; not your mother, brother, sister,father and especially not your fellow tribesman in high office; not now nor in the future. The sooner you teach this lesson to those marauding young men the better. Nothing on this earth is for free, and you can never take from those who have, to give to those who haven't or don't work for it, without a fight or serious consequences. Just as those young men may feel hard done by and react by destroying property, those Kikuyu who have earned their wealth honestly will not stand idly by and watch their hard-earned property ripped apart, and will not apologise or feel guilty for being wealthy, they earned it. If by some miracle you gain some Zen-like Insight and understand what I am trying to tell you, then youwill be truly free.
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written by TK , February 05, 2008
Mr/s Editor - I am very disappointed with how some people sidetrack the discussion into personalities and trivial facts. The suggestion by Wuod Aketch that the Kisii should be killed because Nyachae tarmacked the road from Kericho to Kisii is ridiculous. Wuod Aketch has also suggested that Kikuyu being killed en masse for the sins being committed at State house. Such comments only serve to bring down the level of discussion. This article was about the identity issues, introspection and reconciliation. There are many other forums where one can go and argue ad infinitum about who tarmacked which road and when.
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written by a guest , February 05, 2008
We will thank you kindly to allow us to do without your company if you cannot raise the level of your contribution. Eds.
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written by mainat , February 05, 2008
Wambui, Kikuyus have nothing to apologise for because many of them have worked damned hard to even get to point B. Not that others don't work hard its just that we are willing to go the extra mile all the way to K-City to get ahead. I however agree that we like others need to engage in the nation soul-searching that is currently required. Clearly, if Kenya falls apart and becomes a nation with no-go zones based on tribes, we'll lose out most business-wise. I have plans to build in Mombasa, but will put them on the back-burner until I know that I won't lose my hard-earned money in 2012.
Some of the soul-searching must start by reducing the ever-tiresome finger-pointing.
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written by jessy , February 05, 2008
Thanks wambui for these beautifulLY THOUGHT AND DRAFTED analysis. i think kenya would be a better place to live in if both sides of the divide had level headed and rationale persons like you.GOD BLESS!
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written by mkosakabila , February 05, 2008
Terrific. Thanks.
One last question. Who got the land after the earlier cleansing? The Akiwumi report seems to indicate that those who had expected such rewards may not have recieved of them. Do we know? Who is advantaged the most with this ethnic cleansing of Kikuyu from the rift? Who gets the land? Is it another form of bloody land grab by an exclusive elite of the Nandi community? Remember the BBC podcast Wuod distributed a few days ago, which has some pious church-going elders describing their vision of a pure, Kikuyu-free areas? Also, how is it that those enlisted on killing missions keep doing the same, even if they are not getting rewarded? Perchance mursik and kimiet is satisfactory! Where is Truth anyway?

Editor's note. It was not Wuod Aketch, but Vitalis Oyudo. Similar names in a parallel world perhaps, but not in this one. Aketch is very unlikely to have posted anything that displays the ODM or its supporters in a negative light.
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written by New Day , February 08, 2008
Now, if you would kindly list these injustices committed against the 41 by the Kikuyu.

CRIMES OF OMISSION: Independence was fought by all the Kenyan communities as we know them. Others did not join the freedom fighters but supported them. It was a joint dream. The Kalenjins, the Akamba, the Luo, the Mijikenda, the Luhya actively took part and in one voice asked the european settlers to please leave. It was not only the mau mau (refered to as Kikuyu guerilla fighters) that handed in the freedom. Infact, so much was happening in other provinces, way up on to Nyanza and North Eastern provinces. All this has sadly been forgotten. Historical documentaries from Newsreel are all over the KBC studios and the one anthem they all refrain is that the Kikuyus fought for independence. I have watched other movies in cultural forums and somehow the directors manage to squeeze in a mau mau story. As a consequence of this biased learning, it is 'felt' that kikuyus are superior to other tribes 'because they fought for the country's independence'. However, I am now gathering sufficient proof through my own continous research, that other communities actively participated in this struggle and surprisingly, the mau mau force alone, despite being timely, was not enough to convince the white settlers to leave. Do you know who published the first indigenous newspaper to report on the progress of the Kenya People's Union?
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written by New Day , February 08, 2008
QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE BY WAMBUI MWANGI: 'For many years, it did not occur to me that it might be important that I was from Central Province, that perhaps it was not an accident that I did so well in school; that my fortune in having, for a mother, one of the most extraordinary human-beings it has been my privilege to know was pre-arranged by historical injustice-none of this seemed important to me, because it did not seem to me that I had been given any Kikuyu-flavoured breaks or Kikuyu-tinged advantages. I firmly believed that I had fought for all of it: that it was mine on merit-the whole shebang'.

When I was young I always knew where I came from and where my parent's ancestral homes were located and visited these places frequently. It is a little pretentious for this author to claim total ignorance of her ancestral origins. We all tend to know our community backgrounds and tribal identities from way back in nursery school. Tolerance is the key to control tribal animosity because we all continue to occupy this country from our various angles. Pretending that you are beside the ongoing tribal squabbling is putting your head in the sand like an ostrich. After all, every one will at the end of the day, say that they live by their sweat. I also live and earn from my sweat and hard work, unless there is another special type of hard work which only certain communities possess. So, dear writer, fold your sleeves and dig into the core of the mess we are in, lofty poetic overtones which leave some unbearable gaps in the mind of the reader will not help the country.

Now, this soul-searching that all communities are expected to engage in actively in order to find out who they are etc, what exactly is it about? If we are busy fighting amongst tribes and only engage in 'soul searching' with members of our own communities, how does that stop us from fighting other communities we consider in need of a fix?

I have a radical solution to all this mess if all we are going to do is run around in circles yet continue pointing fingers at others. Divide the country into two parts, if you are pro-Kibaki, go to Kibaki friendly zones, form your prefered national anthem and declare a sovereign state. Likewise if you are a Raila man. Then we can divide the country and everyone regains their happiness, because from the load of insults it is clear that maybe we do not need each other.
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Shame On You Wambui
written by Paul Kimani , February 24, 2008
People should really be encouraged to travel in this country. If they did, they'd notice that the average person living in Central is no better off than the average person living in Nyanza or Western Some might be a bit worse off, like in North eastern but I hear they built a world class airport in Wajir now and who knows, they might strike oil someday. The average Kikuyu slum dweller is no better off than his Luo or Luhya neighbour. No richer, no closer to connections etc. Lets also be fair in our analysis, all the analysis acts like the only person with any ability to move anything is the President, forgetting that we also have a Vice President, powerful cabinet ministers etc., who also have good leverage. As far as I can recall we've had 3 Luhya Vice Presidents, and for a fact we've had enough cabinet ministers of all shades from all the communities.
It is also conveniently forgotten that at the end of Kibaki's government the Kikuyu will have been in that position for a total of 25 years. Moi was at the helm for 24 years.The government would do itself a huge favour if we had all the statistics available and in this day and age it is not that hard to disseminate information. Put it on a website. The Information in there would be like, how many kilometres of roads are tarmacked per province? How many schools per province, how many houses have access to electricity? How Many have running water? How much tax revenue is collected per province? How much flows back into the said province? etc. You get my drift. What does equitable distribution of resources mean. Judging from other countries, it means some regions will have to carry others. How fair will this be to those in this regions that they are paying more and getting less?

Of rigged elections. I wish everyone would go back to the ODM evidence. The case of Juja alone should blow their case out of the water in its ridiculous assertions.

ODM claims voter turnout 33%. A form 16 was published that showed a total of
55 000 votes from 111 polling stations. Juja has a total of 163 000 voters.
Total number of polling stations in the last whole election was 27000 + that works out to an average of 128 polling stations per constituency.
27 000/ 210.
An average constituency has about 69 000 voters 14.4 million/210 constituencies. Juja thus has more than twice the number of voters in an average constituency.
One thing is clear, that the government lets such ridiculous assertions stand or sends the discredited ECK to argue its point is testament to its ineptitude at managing public opinion. All future parties beware. A good PR department is priceless. Kudos to ODM for having an excellent PR/propaganda machine. That's how you gain power.
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Shame on You Wambui
written by Paul Kimani , February 24, 2008
Wambui if you must, by all means apologise. Just don't do it in the name of the Agikuyu or compel us to follow suit. We have enslaved no one. We have segregated no one. We didn't put any one in the gas chambers or actively go around killing their first born sons of their families and their herds of cattle. If anything our people have been killed with impunity. Our women have been raped with impunity and that was long before Kibaki came into power. Our blood has become cheap. Our properties fair game to anyone with a matchbox and a jerry-can of oil.
The biggest cities in Kenya are Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu and Nakuru in that order. Eldoret caught up quickly in the Moi era, which saw it afforded a world class airport and university. If central was as favoured as some say, we would definitely have a world class mega city deep in central highlands with all the amenities that go with it.
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